Elto Rudder twin advise needed please.

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Huntleybill
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Elto Rudder twin advise needed please.

Postby Huntleybill » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:00 pm

Picked up a rudder twin that was stuck. I got it un-stuck!Attached picture of wires looks pretty bad. Can these be rebuilt? Is there any info on how to rebuild them? or would I be wasting my time?

Any advice appreciated. Thank you
Bill
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Re: Elto Rudder twin advise needed please.

Postby Chris_P » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:27 am

Yes they can be rebuilt. Lots of threads on that here on the forum. Check the coil, if it fails, you can use a zephyr coil.

Most of the work is cleaning out the old material!

Lots of experts on this forum on this

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Re: Elto Rudder twin advise needed please.

Postby Lyks2Tinkr » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:44 am

Yes they can be repaired as stated above.
It has been my experience that the common failure mode with them is the internal condenser (capacitor) goes bad.
If the coil secondary is still good then the capacitor and wiring can be repaired and the coil will throw hot spark again.

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Re: Elto Rudder twin advise needed please.

Postby Tubs » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:00 am

Here is one option for the coil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2vxDqF_OEU

Have a couple others floating around in my head
but haven't gotten around to them yet.

This will give you the basics of the timer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLS6IglCy9k

Points are no longer being made and if you
screw them up replacing them can be difficult
and expensive. If no one has been in there ahead
of you just some cleaning is likely all it will need.
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Re: Elto Rudder twin advise needed please.

Postby wbeaton » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:51 am

I followed Tub's advice and rebuilt a Ruddertwin coil with a Zephyr coil. It seemed to work well. The entire time I was doing it I couldn't help wondering if there was a more modern coil that would be suitable. I haven't looked into it, but it sure would be nice to pick up a brand new coil instead of using 70 year old replacements.

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Re: Elto Rudder twin advise needed please.

Postby Huntleybill » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:12 am

This is fantastic....thank you.

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Re: Elto Rudder twin advise needed please.

Postby Tubs » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:24 am

Once stuff was made to last. Now it is
purposely made not to last too long.
For the most part these 90 year old
Super Elto coils are still good. Its just
the wire that has failed. A 70 year old
Zephyr coil that is still working as it
should could easily out last most of
the stuff that comes from China and
the like today.
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Re: Elto Rudder twin advise needed please.

Postby jimross » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:05 pm

In regard to replacing points: go to Atwater-Kent ignition parts an you will find the points for Ruddertwin, Speedster and '28-30 Quad under the brand name of 2 dozen teens thru 20's Auto's using the same AK ign parts. At present there is a set for $20.00, look at the picture. Jim Ross

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Re: Elto Rudder twin advise needed please.

Postby wbeaton » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:41 pm

Tubs wrote:Once stuff was made to last. Now it is
purposely made not to last too long.
For the most part these 90 year old
Super Elto coils are still good. Its just
the wire that has failed. A 70 year old
Zephyr coil that is still working as it
should could easily out last most of
the stuff that comes from China and
the like today.


That's true, but I don't want to buy a Zephyr every time I want to fix an ELTO :)

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Re: Elto Rudder twin advise needed please.

Postby Chris_P » Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:57 pm

jimross wrote:In regard to replacing points: go to Atwater-Kent ignition parts an you will find the points for Ruddertwin, Speedster and '28-30 Quad under the brand name of 2 dozen teens thru 20's Auto's using the same AK ign parts. At present there is a set for $20.00, look at the picture. Jim Ross


Is this a website you are referring to? Can you post a link?


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