Elto Confusion

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Mike Stroz
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Elto Confusion

Postby Mike Stroz » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:28 pm

I've now got what I thought were 4 Elto Pal's, but now that I look at them, 3 are marked 4266, and 1 is marked 4203, and 2 have larger heads and different exhaust manifolds than the other 2. Basically I've got 2 of each kind, but 3 are marked 4266. Does anyone have pictures of the different models so I can figure this out? I need to find parts for one but I'm not sure what parts I'm looking for now...
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Re: Elto Confusion

Postby Phil B » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:39 pm

Ye Olde Outboard book says:
4203 is a 1937 Pal
4266 is a 1938-1941 Pal:
SN to 2000 is 1938
SN to 7000 is 1939
SN to 12000 is 1940
SN 12000 and up is 1941
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Re: Elto Confusion

Postby Mike Stroz » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:58 pm

Ok, that helps a little. Now I at least know they're all Pals, but are there any differences with the different heads as far as the internals? I don't really want to tear apart one of my 3 runners to measure it.
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Re: Elto Confusion

Postby kees » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:08 pm

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give it a try !
first model 4203 is 0.9 hp and has a cast iron cylinder
last model 4266 is 1.1 hp cylinder is made of an other alloy

4266 cylinders on models up to #12000 are different then the later ones
with #12001 and up
see also ;
http://www.joeoutboard.com/manuals/elto-manuals.html
you find parts manuals to see the details.
there is also a model 4253 but I have no info about that one.
;) good luck
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Re: Elto Confusion

Postby Mike Stroz » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:50 pm

Ok, that helps. The one I need to find rings for is the 1937 4203 with the cast iron cylinder. I might try to take apart my runner to take measurements, but the nuts look pretty rusty... I'll check out that link now
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Re: Elto Confusion

Postby Garry in Tampa » Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:56 am

Here is what I have - piston & rings are the same in all models. . . ;)
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Re: Elto Confusion

Postby Tubs » Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:40 am


The the ring dimensions are
1 3/8"x 3/32"
Here is a link to a ring supplier.
$5.00 each + Shipping.
http://pistonrings.net/
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Re: Elto Confusion

Postby Mike Stroz » Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:33 am

Tubs, thanks a lot, I'll order those right away. Garry, thanks for clarifying. I would have expected the pistons and ring to be different between the types of cylinders.
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Re: Elto Confusion

Postby Tubs » Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:46 am

Nope. There is variations in the pistons but the size
of the rings is the same in all Pal models.
If you have a piston you can measure and
confirm these dimensions.
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Re: Elto Confusion

Postby Mike Stroz » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:09 am

Ok, I think I just have a couple more questions- What should the ring gap be? And what is that little piece of rubber that seals the tube going from the water pump up to the head and where can I find one? That's the only other piece missing on this motor, apart from a single bolt holding the tank on
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