1930 Elto Speedster ignition mess

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1930 Elto Speedster ignition mess

Postby Buccaneer » Fri May 18, 2018 2:08 pm

I'm trying to get the hub off that the flywheel was bolted to.
I finally managed to get the allen set screw out on the side
of the hub. The hole that the allen goes in only appears about
1/4" deep. I wouldn't think the crankshaft would be that fat
to only need a 1/4" set screw in the hub.
I have quite a lot a pressure on the puller, and have been
spraying pee oil around the crankshaft. I'm hesitant at this
point to put any heat on it, unless I can protect the coil.
Maybe a wet rag would be adequate.
I hate to break the hub in case it's an actual part from something.
It was suggested that it could be a hub (with the points cam) cut
out from a flywheel. If so, I don't see any machine marks, and
it was a darn nice job.

Also discovered, that the mag plate is from a four cylinder outboard.
You can see the old coil wires cut off in the grommets in the mag
plate, in each side of the cavity where the huge condenser is mounted.
I presume it's a Johnson mag plate by looking at the kill switch button or
Did Evinrude use kill switch buttons like Johnson?
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Re: 1930 Elto Speedster ignition mess

Postby Garry in Tampa » Fri May 18, 2018 3:06 pm

The tapered point on the pullers center screw has been known the spread the end of the crank shaft making it hard to install the flywheel nut. - That is definitely NOT a factory modification ! ! ! :(
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Re: 1930 Elto Speedster ignition mess

Postby Michael » Fri May 18, 2018 3:17 pm

Think I would use a 3 pronged puller and thread the appropriate bolts into the threaded holes int he hub

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Re: 1930 Elto Speedster ignition mess

Postby Chris_P » Fri May 18, 2018 4:21 pm

I think I would use a harmonic balancer puller as well. Put the nut back on the crank to protect it, at least half way. I don't like the pullers center bolt touching the crank for reasons Garry states plus the chance of damaging the threads.

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Re: 1930 Elto Speedster ignition mess

Postby Buccaneer » Fri May 18, 2018 4:47 pm

Thanks for the idea. I presume with 12 holes to choose
from, three of them should line up with my harmonic puller!

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Re: 1930 Elto Speedster ignition mess

Postby Tubs » Sat May 19, 2018 9:58 am

Buccaneer wrote: I'm hesitant at this point to put any heat on it,
unless I can protect the coil. Maybe a wet rag would be adequate.

Cant just take the coil out?
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Re: 1930 Elto Speedster ignition mess

Postby Buccaneer » Sat May 19, 2018 10:25 am

Tubs wrote:
Buccaneer wrote: I'm hesitant at this point to put any heat on it,
unless I can protect the coil. Maybe a wet rag would be adequate.

Cant just take the coil out?


Tubs, that may have been an option. Suppose I could have cut off
the plug wires, did some un-soldering, etc., but
it's no longer necessary. The harmonic balancer, pipe wrench to hold the hub,
and a 3/4" socket on my breaker bar popped that hub right off!
I had to make 1/4" x 28 tpi bolt on the lathe, as I only could find two
long enough. Found out that galvanized bolts don't cut nice threads
even after you remove the galvanized coating. Also, a million of
light cuts were required on that 1/4" bolt due to the flex. It looked
like crap, but it worked.

Also, now that I have the mag plate off, I found some numbers on the bottom.
71D1131
Does anyone know what 4 cylinder motor it was from?
Photos later today.
Thanks.

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Re: 1930 Elto Speedster ignition mess

Postby bill_loveland » Sat May 19, 2018 12:29 pm

Johnson V series

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Re: 1930 Elto Speedster ignition mess

Postby Buccaneer » Sat May 19, 2018 4:46 pm

bill_loveland wrote:Johnson V series


Thanks Bill, I'll see if I can find a mag plate photo of
a Johnson V.

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Re: 1930 Elto Speedster ignition mess

Postby Garry in Tampa » Sat May 19, 2018 4:54 pm


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