Help with broken bolts

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John8504
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Help with broken bolts

Postby John8504 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:11 pm

Starting to tear down my 1952 evinrude 3 hp by taking the head off to replace piston rings. Low and behold I find myself with 3 broken head bolts. One is flush and the other two have a little grab. Anyone have a remedy? I've tried a propane torch and no luck.
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Re: Help with broken bolts

Postby david bartlett » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:23 pm

Propane is usually not enough. I use a MAPP gas torch with good results. Get the stud HOT with the torch, then put a pair of vice-grips on the stud. This will act as a heat sink and shrink the stud quickly, often breaking the grip of the stud to block. Your favorite penetrating oil can't hurt.

Oxy-Acetylene is best, but not all of us have that luxury. As for the flush one, center punch and drill it out. Start small and work out with bigger bits until close to the threads, then work it out with an awl or pointed screw driver.

Stay away from the exhaust cover screws if you can help it. Those break easier than the head bolts.

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Re: Help with broken bolts

Postby XR55 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:41 pm

You can bolt the head back on and use as large a drill bit that will fit into the bolt hole to center the drill to get a centered pocket in the broken bolt and then remove the head and drill with a small bit and work your way up to a larger one until touching the threads.

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Re: Help with broken bolts

Postby PugetSoundBoater » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:57 pm

XR55 wrote:You can bolt the head back on and use as large a drill bit that will fit into the bolt hole to center the drill to get a centered pocket in the broken bolt and then remove the head and drill with a small bit and work your way up to a larger one until touching the threads.


I really like your method! Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Help with broken bolts

Postby XR55 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:22 am

Use care that the large bit does not walk off center as the head is soft aluminum.

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Re: Help with broken bolts

Postby 20mercman » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:32 am

If you have access to a TIG welder, I would weld on to the flush bolt. This will get you something to grab on to. Again, heat will be your best friend. Ox/ac will be best, but I have been able to use propane, as long as it has a big tip. MAP is hotter than propane. Once the bolt starts to move, go back and forth, and penetrating oil till it will come out. I had a Wizard 18 cid hurricane block that had 17 broken bolts or studs in it. Many of them flush or below the surface. I was able to get them all out this way.

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Re: Help with broken bolts

Postby bobw » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:53 am

First thing to do is wire brush all that corrosion away from the area where the broken bolt enters the block. This will allow your penetrating fluid to wick down into the bolt threads in the block. And use a quality penetrating fluid, not WD40. On the one long stub you could thread 2 nuts onto the bolt, jam the 2 nuts tight together then use a wrench to turn it loose. As with all broken bolts, this process takes judicious use of the torch, copious amounts of penetrating fluid and liberal amounts of PATIENCE. I once had 2 broken head bolts like yours and I worked on them an hour or so every night with the propane torch and fluid before they finally broke loose. Good luck.
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Re: Help with broken bolts

Postby bobw » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:56 am

Forgot to say I worked on them every night for 2 weeks before they finally budged loose. PATIENCE!!
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Re: Help with broken bolts

Postby John C » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:30 pm

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A set of these are handy for centering your drill bits. They don't enlarge the holes like a drill bit would.

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Re: Help with broken bolts

Postby outbdnut2 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:49 pm

Be sure your cylinder head is absolutely flat before you put it back together. These 3 HPs are notorious for slightly warped heads that cause the head gasket to blow out a passage between the two cylinders. If it's not perfectly flat, sand it on wetordry paper laid on a flat, non-flexible surface. I use the steel top of an old tablesaw for the flat surface. Tighten the pair of center bolts first. Torque spec is 60 to 84 inch-pounds.
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