Row Boat Motor Magnetos

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Re: Row Boat Motor Magnetos

Postby bobw » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:53 pm

I'm same as David B - I can't help figure out this magneto setup but I admire your tenacity in restoring/re-creating the history of these old motors. You really do some fine work.
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Re: Row Boat Motor Magnetos

Postby Buccaneer » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:58 pm

Thanks all for your support, encouragement and tips. Jack Craib has a great site,
and no doubt a wealth of knowledge, but unfortunately, he's unable to
help out right now.
I try contacting the Prime Minister, but I'm not too savy on
Royal etiquette!

cajuncook1 wrote:Buc, I think Chris and Wayne have offer some good advice. Seek out the RBM special interests captains. I believe they are located in the inner sanctum. Jack Crabb has some good information on his site. Art D has some literature for sale as well. I starterd on my 1916 Evinrude RBM a couple of years back, but life got in the way. Hope to get back to it soon.

I do wish our inner sanctum had more information about RBM'S

You can join the RBM AOMCI chapter/group. I'm sorry, I forgot who leads that group. Maybe someone will know and contact you.

Cheers and enjoying your enthusiasm.

Cajun

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Re: Row Boat Motor Magnetos

Postby JimParrott » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:36 pm

Buccaneer,

Ferro RBM advertisements stated the magnetos were reversible. Try Autolite 3095 or Champion 25 spark plugs. Hope this helps.

Jim

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Re: Row Boat Motor Magnetos

Postby Buccaneer » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:35 am

JimParrott wrote:Buccaneer,

Ferro RBM advertisements stated the magnetos were reversible. Try Autolite 3095 or Champion 25 spark plugs. Hope this helps.

Jim


Thanks Jim. I believe I might have used the Autolite 3095 on a Maytag engine
once upon a time.
I received an email reply from the Prime Minister regarding some of my question on
RBM magnetos. He believes that all the magneto's he's seen on RBM's had some
type of spark advance. Also, as you mentioned, he says that Ferro's mags
were advertised to run in either direction. Furthermore, he does not
believe any RBM mags used an impulse coupling.

Not sure if I could "build-in" a spark advance somehow, using a points plate
that swivels. If so, it would have to be so the 70 year old coil wires
didn't move back and forth each time.
First I'll figure out how to mount and couple the mag, then ponder lack
of spark advance.

Does it look like this original Elkhart magneto had any kind of spark advance?
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Re: Row Boat Motor Magnetos

Postby Stanley » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:03 am

Found this tidbit on line.https://books.google.com/books?id=K3MoN ... or&f=false Seems to imply there was an advance

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Re: Row Boat Motor Magnetos

Postby Buccaneer » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:25 pm

Awesome find Stanley.... THANKS!
It definitely implies that the engine
will run in reverse, but I'm not seeing anything
implying an impulse coupling, but then again,
I have a hard time finding stuff in the grocery store
right in front of my nose!


Stanley wrote:Found this tidbit on line.https://books.google.com/books?id=K3MoN ... or&f=false Seems to imply there was an advance
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Re: Row Boat Motor Magnetos

Postby david bartlett » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:27 pm

Tom,

There’s a Wisconsin RBM ad in the “Inner Sanctom” in the archives. It says the magneto was reversible.
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Re: Row Boat Motor Magnetos

Postby Buccaneer » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:20 pm

Dave, I thought I had looked thru those archives a while back,
but evidently I miss that ad. Thanks!

Worked on the mounting plate and and coupling today for
the Bendix mag to adapt to the Wisconsin. Neither are
done, but at least I have a plan now..... if it works may be
another story.
Worked on firewood, dug up flower bulbs, and sadly,
drained the outboard test barrel and put it away for the winter. :(

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Re: Row Boat Motor Magnetos

Postby JamesDavisIII » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:20 am

I got a old mag in my garage, wilco gear driven, came with some other stuff, I don't need it if it will help.

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Re: Row Boat Motor Magnetos

Postby Buccaneer » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:30 pm

JamesDavisIII wrote:I got a old mag in my garage, wilco gear driven, came with some other stuff, I don't need it if it will help.


Jim, Thanks for the offer, but for now, I'll continue with the Bendix, seeing how I'm
almost done making the coupler, mounting, etc., and it even has spark!


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