Home Forum Ask A Member Mid 1950’s Firestone Impeller – Honda?

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    Blake Monroe
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      US Member - 2 Years

      I found a YouTube video where a guy had seen a post on AOMCI about using a Honda water pump impeller for a mid 1950;s Scptt or Firestone 5 to 10 HP motors. Can anyone assist with some further info on this part number for the Honda Impeller? It was a much less expensive option than new old stock Scott impellers on the market.

      #250594
      Buccaneer
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        According to my notes, I ended up using Honda impellers in the two 7.5 hp bail-a-matics
        I worked on. I blanked the bailer pump, and just used one impeller in each motor.
        I tried other impellers as well that some people said worked, but not for me.
        The part number I show was…….. 19210-ZW9-013

        Some people epoxied a Honda liner into the Scott pump housing, but I was not
        able to find where anyone sold “just” the liner, so I added brass sheet
        on the walls of the original liner to reduce it’s diameter, so the Honda impeller would pump
        nicely.

        My notes……
        Installed a .035 brass liner inside of the
        current water pump liner to use the Honda impeller,
        and made a new brass cover plate on pump.
        Pump cavity ID was originally 1.685, depth .600
        Pump cavity ID with brass insert is 1.632,
        .053 smaller than original.
        Honda impeller specs – OD 1.785 x .585

        Prepare to be boarded!

        • This reply was modified 2 years, 12 months ago by Buccaneer.
        #250597
        Blake Monroe
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          US Member - 2 Years

          Thank you Buccaneer for the great reply! How did you blank out the BOM impeller so you are only down to one impeller?

          #250598
          Blake Monroe
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            US Member - 2 Years

            Also, any good sources for the water pump oring and seals?

            #250601
            Buccaneer
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              Thank you Buccaneer for the great reply! How did you blank out the BOM impeller so you are only down to one impeller?

              I blanked off the bailer pump by fitting an aluminum
              “hockey puck” like piece in the cavity (not a photo of my motor)
              like in the photo.
              Bailer-Pump-Blank-cartridge

              A photo of my pump with the homemade brass liner on the sidewall of the
              pump cavity.
              DSCN0271

              Regarding the O-rings, I measured the size I needed, and found some
              very close on EBay……. can’t remember how they worked out,
              and I can’t find a part / size number.

              Prepare to be boarded!

              #250611
              Blake Monroe
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                US Member - 2 Years

                Thanks for the response! I must say you guys sure do demonstrate some great Machining skills!

                #250627
                joecb
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                  US Member

                  Bucc… another nice creative fix. I think that that warrants a tech article for the Antique Outboarder

                  Joe B

                  #250646
                  Buccaneer
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                    Bucc… another nice creative fix. I think that that warrants a tech article for the Antique Outboarder

                    Joe B

                    Joe, too much time has passed and I’m not taking that darn thing back apart, lol

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