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January 1, 2024 at 7:54 am #283603Amazing how we use technology to instantly communicate across the world via undersea fiber optic cables or satellite telecoms, to share knowledge/experience using personnal computers more powerfull than the original PDP 8-11 cpu’s used to go to the moon…. to help a stanger while the same technologies will guide the worst inventions created by man.As a younger fellow when I started in telecoms in the late 60s large corporations had private teletype networks running 75 words a minute , 110 bps modems began sprouting up to speed things up..a bit. Then came 300-600 1200-2400-9600 bps modems … eventually 56Kbps to 1.5mbs yet today we still complain the Net is slow …and we use it all to solve a problem on a stuck 2 stroke engine built 75 years agowe live in interesting times. Happy New Year everyone.
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January 1, 2024 at 2:54 pm #283612The absolute best thing about the internet is the great stuff scattered around the world that is put back into use by enthusiasts of all kinds!
January 7, 2024 at 2:26 pm #283756Very insightful Crosbyman.
I was one of ‘those guys’ who lived at Egghead Software and upgraded my modems almost annually it seems.
Remember setting the modem card for the correct IRQ, etc? Then plug ‘n play came along and it was off to the races (sort of), if your OS could handle it.
Wow. Been a short 40 years…
John Gragg
RIverside, CAJust starting in the hobby, please be patient.
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55 Johnson CD12January 7, 2024 at 7:22 pm #283766My friend” kitchen set died. A 500 set I installed About 40 years ago. I found a phone to replace it. I started digging thru my telephone tools to do the job and started having flash backs. Times have changed and how. I still have my hooks and climbing belt hanging in the garage.
January 7, 2024 at 7:32 pm #283767One bad thing about the ‘Net, is now some of my stuff I thought was rare and valuable, isn’t either one!!
January 7, 2024 at 8:03 pm #283770Reivertom
don’tworry… time will take care of it.. price will go up…. one day 🙂
p.s. 500 set: common “hard to kill” black rotary dial desk phone or kitchen 🙂
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January 8, 2024 at 9:44 am #283777My friend” kitchen set died. A 500 set I installed About 40 years ago. I found a phone to replace it. I started digging thru my telephone tools to do the job and started having flash backs. Times have changed and how. I still have my hooks and climbing belt hanging in the garage.
When we moved in 1955 two of these were
installed by the phone company and my mother
used them till she passed in 2010. I brought one
home. We have other wireless ones around the
house but its the one I use. Don’t have any
problem hearing on it. Only need to connect 2
of the wires for it to work today.
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January 8, 2024 at 10:19 am #283779Tubs How do you get that old rotary phone to work on a digital line? You are amazing us again!
dale
January 8, 2024 at 11:52 am #283781
Just started connecting wires to the junction
box till It worked???
I have our old touch phone, the ones with the
key pad that make a tone when you push the
buttons, in the wife laundry room. Works fine.
I’ve heard that the old crank phones will ring
and you can talk and hear but you can’t dial
out. Lots of old stuff besides outboards
(including me)around this house. We try to
keep it all working.(including me)
Probably Mr. Pieklik can answer that question.
Tubs
.January 8, 2024 at 12:09 pm #283787to answer that one is easy… if I may
Digital technology that replaced central office relay switching works the same way when capturing rotary dial pulses generating make and break loop current at 45-65 % percent break. Later came touch tones on the basic service… to charge you more money 🙂 while saving all the maintenance $$$ on the clink-clank relays technology.
Digital ” line cards” simply capture the on-off current pulses on the phone loop as a stored digit and converts it to ” signalling/routing) information” to be processed further down the system . The accumulated dialed numbers ( 1 to 0) interspaced by ” inter digit timing” are accumulated to form a destination # according to the Number Plan Area +Exchange NXX & xxxx format.
Computers then first define the call as local or LD & establish a point to point connection and pass on network routing info to both calling and called parties ( dial tone, ring tones busy tones, ” no such number tones, netwrok messages, called ID) etc..)
Upon getting a signalling reply (off-hook loop current ) from the destination the voice component is established between parties. All this is done in an instant
sound quality wise… old networks carried 300-4000 hz bandwith for human ears… today everthing is sampled, encoded, reassembled using complex algorithms to recreate sounds … no wonder ” bits” of it are lost on the way 🙂
Concept wise … nothing new under the sun. remember when phone serbvice was $18/month 🙂
One problem…with rotary… not so good to fetch /control voice mail unles you link it to a separate touch tone pad 🙂
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