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    Tinman
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      Picked up this motor recently and I believe it has the universal magneto, so that should be a breeze. The carb I can handle I hope. I know it’s different. The question I have for now is what water pump impeller does this take and how hard is it to change? This model has the neutral lever and I’m sure that will have to be possibly disconnected to get to the water pump. Thanks for any help. Sorry been gone for a bit, been busy with mom in hospital and nursing home. Be nice to get back to working on a few motors.

      #284690
      aquasonic
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        Could you post a picture?

        #284691
        frankr
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          That is a Gale 5D10 motor.  Gearcase/water pump are the same as 5hp Johnson TN-xx models, except for a couple of items.  Drain gear oil, or you will wind up with oily shoes, then cable has to be disconnected at the neutral lever, then gearcase and 1/4″ plate (#17) with the water pump can be dropped down to access the pump.  Cable will follow it.  No fear, the cable is fed up through a (#5) pipe to re-install.  Warning!!  If cable end is frayed, a different procedure is required.  Don’t pull a frayed cable down or you’ll never get it back up through the pipe.

          Hint— a 5.5/7.5 HP Johnson impeller will work by reaming out the center hub to fit over the slightly larger drive shaft.

           

          Pg-18-Lower-Unit-Gearcase

          #284693
          crosbyman
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            Canada Member - 2 Years

            if you get the Johnson red bible  TN are covered and could help you along

            Joining AOMCI has priviledges 🙂

            #284706
            Tinman
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              Thanks frankr!!

              #284708
              frankr
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                The neutral cable is one of the differences.  A Johnson TN cable is same as the Gale, but longer (to teach the tank-mounted lever).  You can use a Johnson cable in a Gale, but not the other way around, because the Gale is too short to reach.

                #284714
                Tinman
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                  Yes. Here is the picIMG_3007

                  #284718
                  Buccaneer
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                    I’ve got one of those motors also, but I’m not seeing
                    a neutral shift on mine…….. will have to check it
                    in person.

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                    #284722
                    elgin2
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                      I have a Gale version and the Sea King. Both 5hp. One has neutral shift and one doesn’t. There’s a couple years difference in them though.

                      #284725
                      Tinman
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                        Buccaneer, here is a pic of the side with the neutral shift leverIMG_3008

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