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  • March 30, 2018 at 4:25 pm #9522
    skanders01
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      I almost hate to post this question in that I would think it would have been historically discussed to the point that the turnip is out of blood; however, here again I can not find any threads when searching this site for a current replacement for the old J4J. Not sure it is me or the site search functionality (or lack thereof.) looking for support on tte site for help searching the site and that was a catch 22 exercise.

      Champion’s current website part search for my FD-16’s and my CD-11’s feeds back Champion plug #841 (which I think is the same as their J8C.) Marine Engine’s site says #825 (which I think is the same as J4C.) Marine engine says their site’s parts explosions are the last updated info they have from Johnson (at least the chat person says so in essence.) She also quoted a Champion plug number differing from both of these that was a current Champion OEM replacement plug A "Q" something plug (lost the chat chain.) Confirmed with Champion that their web site selection app is up to date.

      Sorry to have to ask the group again, but until I become a better search engineer I need to rely on my friends at AOMCI. Looking for a thread or other input.

      Thanks to all,

      Kyle Anderson
      Trempeleau, WI
      skanders@triwest.net
      920-764-0501

      March 30, 2018 at 4:37 pm #73246
      nj-boatbuilder57
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        J8C sounds a bit hot to me. I’m thinking a J6J is what the OEM spec is (but I don’t have my book in front of me). Of course a J6J hasn’t been made in years. The difference between a J6C and a J6J is where the lateral electrode ends. A "J" ends midway over the center electrode while a "C" ends at the far edge of the center electrode.

        I’ve been told many times that filing a "C" back to a "J" is a worthwhile thing to do, but I can’t say I’ve ever tried. Maybe this summer!

        Still, "8" sounds too hot to me….

        March 30, 2018 at 4:44 pm #73247
        twostroke
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          I’ve always filed back the electrode on a "C" plug to mimic the old "J" plugs on old non CD ignition two strokes. I’ve always thought they started better, but that may well be wishful thinking on my part.

          Jim

          I say "pardon me" a lot. I had a 20H, then raced open mod sleds.

          March 30, 2018 at 4:53 pm #73249
          skanders01
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            http://www.marineengine.com/newparts/pa … OMC0437686

            Here is the link to the OEM plug from my lost chat. In case link doesn’t work, Johnson/OMC/BRP 765853, Champion QQL87YC.

            Kyle Anderson
            Trempeleau, WI
            skanders@triwest.net
            920-764-0501

            March 30, 2018 at 5:16 pm #73252
            chris-p
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              For the 50s OMCs, almost always start with a J6C (J6J replacement)

              The J8C is much too hot a plug for what you need.

              It is possible you may want to step down to a J4C, if the J6C is running too hot or you do a lot of wide open throttle running. After a few outings, check it. Should be a light brown colour.

              March 30, 2018 at 5:20 pm #73253
              RICHARD A. WHITE
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                Lifetime Member

                Yup J4C and it is available…..

                http://www.richardsoutboardtools.com
                classicomctools@gmail.com

                March 30, 2018 at 6:26 pm #73255
                Mumbles
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                  When new, your ’54 CD-11 came with a J6-J while the ’62 FD-16 probably had a colder J4-J installed in it. The hotter running thermostat temperature controlled FD has much higher compression requiring the colder plug but as the motor loses compression over time, it may require a slightly hotter J6-J plug to help keep deposits from forming and maintaining performance. With todays clean burning TCW III oils, deposits are no longer the problem they once were so the J plugs with the shortened electrode are no longer required. The correct heat range can be determined by studying a new plug after using the motor for a short time for its intended purpose. Heavy loads such as WOT or water skiing will generally require a colder plug but trolling or slower speeds might require a slightly hotter plug. The color of the plugs tip will indicate which one to use.

                  The Champion J4-J’s cross over to the superior NGK B6S plugs while the J6-J’s can be replaced with B8S plugs. Happy motoring!

                  http://www.sparkplug-crossreference.com … AMP_PN/J6J

                  http://www.sparkplug-crossreference.com … AMP_PN/J4J

                  March 30, 2018 at 9:23 pm #73256
                  jerry-ahrens
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                    I would not go with J8C plugs, as they are probably to hot. For me personally, I run J6C in my 35 Gale, 18 Johnson and so on. I got lucky at Tomahawk, and found some NOS J6J’s very cheap. I came home with a couple hand fulls!

                    March 30, 2018 at 9:54 pm #73257
                    crosbyman
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                      Canada Member - 2 Years

                      from the bible

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                      Joining AOMCI has priviledges 🙂

                      March 31, 2018 at 4:39 am #73269
                      garry-in-michigan
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                        From 1949 . . . 😎

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