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  • #259207
    Insman
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      Hello all.  I’m MJ and I’m new to this forum.

      Fall of 2019, I bought a sweet little 14ft. Lund fishing rig for me and my boys with a 15hp Evinrude outboard on it.  At one juncture it wouldn’t start. Not even a tick, so I unbolted the starter and played around with it and bolted it back on and like magic it cranked over.

      This spring I took it to a marine dealer for some TLC and before hitting the water, wanted to check it out. Puts the muffs on, hit the little starter button and it turned over for about 1 second and stopped. Nothing after that.

      I’ve since pulled the flywheel, unbolted it again, notice no bad wiring, terminal wasn’t corroded but I polished it up anyway, bolted it back on and nothing.  I’ve tested it on the ground and it works.  I’ve proven 12 plus volts at the starter wire but there was a few times I got only 3 to 4 volts. (my son was helping so he might not have been holding it tight.)

      Anyway I’ve looked and looked for a solenoid and can’t find one.  Anywhere!  I even scoured this site and don’t see one listed on the schematic.  In frustration, I bent the starter wire slightly differently, retightened it and reinstalled it.  Hooked up the battery and smoke started rolling out of it.  And the negative terminal at the battery got hot.

      Please help.  I’m fairly mechanically inclined but electrically I am challenged…what could be wrong and where is the darn solenoid?

      #259208
      crosbyman
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        Canada Member - 2 Years

        you need to backtrack the usual…red cable on the  starter post  …the other being a ground.

        whatever system you  have…..  high current starter loads  are normally handled  by  a relay (selenoid)    vs a simple key switch contact  whose  contact surfaces ar to small  for high amperage loads.

        you should see 12v on the  starter   post  when activated ….. maybe a few volts less while it spins.   make certain the battery  is top shape.

        3-4 volts at the starter means  the inbound voltage is weak due to a resistive path… or the starter is defective  and drags the voltage down…..if so  I suspect smoke should appear 🙂  anytime.      seems you had some

        in conclusion    backtrace from the +12v  starter post  …the wires are there  just follow them  back to the battery  which should have  clean  post  contacts … you could also  have corrosion inside a crimp somewhere between battery   and motor… both gound wire  and battery wire    play a role  so clean everything up… or replace them

        if you do see 3-4  V   again.. .twist  , poke  bend all the power wires you can access…. one may have a bad crimp or  has oxydized internally at the crimp point.

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

         

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        • This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by crosbyman.
        • This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by crosbyman.
        #259221
        Mumbles
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          3-4 volts at the starter indicates it isn’t getting full battery power. Something in the circuit is causing this and if it isn’t loose or corroded connections, it’s highly probable it’s the starter switch itself. Since these starting systems don’t use a solenoid, the push button starter switch has to handle all the current going to the starter. It’s also mounted outside the front of the motor and exposed to water and salt which isn’t good for anything electrical.

          The starting current also goes thru the neutral safety switch mounted on the starboard side of the motor  and if either it or the starter switch are faulty, it wont crank over. The neutral safety switch also has to be adjusted so it will allow continuity only with the shift lever in neutral.

          To test the system, a heavy wire can be used by connecting one end to the positive post of the battery and touching the battery side  of the safety switch while in neutral.  The motor should crank over.  If it doesn’t,  suspect the safety switch and then touch the other side of the switch or the terminal on the starter. If it doesn’t crank over, suspect the starter or ground connection on the motor.  If it won’t crank over with the starter button pushed in but it will by bypassing the starter switch, it’s probably the starter switch at fault.

          The starters are quite simple on these motors and can easily be taken apart for inspection.  Dry and dirty bearings, a dirty or worn  commutator, worn or hung brushes can all contribute to lazy cranking.

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          #259237
          billw
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            US Member

            Mumbles did a nice job on that. Electrically, if your marine dealer doesn’t know how to figure this out in about five minutes, you need another marine dealer.

            A couple of other thoughts: If you pulled the flywheel, was that because you thought the power head was mechanically binding up? Does the manual, recoil starter turn the engine over okay?

            Also, when you replace the flywheel, make sure you use a torque wrench to tighten the nut to the proper specification. Otherwise, the flywheel, key and/or the crankshaft could be damaged, causing you a whole bunch of bigger, more expensive problems.

            Long live American manufacturing!

            • This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by billw.
            #259243
            fleetwin
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              US Member - 2 Years

              OK, must have missed something, what year/model 15hp is this?  I’m assuming it is a relatively new OMC 15hp two stroke, correct?    Some of these newer models do have a starter solenoid so we really need to know the model number of the engine.

              #259260
              Mumbles
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                Or is it a ’56 15 horse, which is 6 volt?

                #259272
                billw
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                  US Member

                  He said this: “Put the muffs on, hit the little starter button” so I was assuming it was a later, low profile 15 with electric start….

                  Long live American manufacturing!

                  #259309
                  fleetwin
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                    US Member - 2 Years

                    Yeah, I caught that also.  But, is it the old or new style 15hp… Am assuming it is tiller controlled and not remote electric.

                    #259356
                    billw
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                      US Member

                      Yeah, I caught that also.  But, is it the old or new style 15hp… Am assuming it is tiller controlled and not remote electric.

                      Oops, I was looking at it backwards, thinking REALLY OLD 15, vs. what I think of as “new”…..the eighties! Ha ha.

                      It’s interesting that we are all going back and forth on this and the OP hasn’t come back once. I guess he got it fixed!

                      Long live American manufacturing!

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