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    HARRY D. NICHOLSON
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      There should be a ‘distributor’ under the mag plate where 2 spark plug wires come from.
      How does the ‘distributor’ work on these. Would like to see pictures of the innards. Is there a coil inside? EvinAADistributor001

      #286661
      Buccaneer
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        Harry, is that merely a “splitter” shown in your photo.
        I have a “borrowed” photo of said outboard, and it
        looks to have a timer that the splitter plugs in to.

        I can’t tell by the photo if it has an onboard coil,
        or set up for a remote coil and battery???

        1916-17-Evinrude-AA-Four-Cycle-Twin3

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        #286668
        HARRY D. NICHOLSON
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          I’ve seen lots of pics and it looks like one wire comes out of the bottom of the mag and goes into the ‘distributor’ and then 2 spark plug wires come out of the ‘distributor’ and they go to the spark plugs. We’re missing the distributor. Pictures seem to show a normal Evinrude RBM magneto plate assy. It can’t be just 2 plug wires tied to one coming out of the mag or only one plug would spark.

          In the 1919 Evinrude parts book, the only ignition difference between the AA 4-cycle twin and the common 2HP single is the flywheel $18, empty mag plate $1.70, and distributor with wires $2.50.

          #286672
          HARRY D. NICHOLSON
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            The flywheel may be a different part number than the common RBM because it may be rope start, only on an AA.

            Found pics of the ‘distributor’ on F by Mr Scratch. It is geared to provide spark to one plug at a time, alternating as it rotates on the end of the camshaft. These show one design of the distributor.EvinAAScratch282038496_10158788770839352_7005235844470665256_n
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            #286675
            Buccaneer
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              Interesting motor for sure.
              I found Bob Grubbs on YouTube, and
              it runs incredibly smooth.

              https://youtu.be/acC8-Iz6qwI?si=iVd3_w6_w9u-uwGq

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              #286678
              The Boat House
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                Smoother than I thought it would be
                or is it just too heavy to vibrate?
                Tubs

                #286740
                pm-t2
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                  The distributor is driven off the cam shaft, so the rotor spins at one-half crankshaft speed. Thus the flywheel magneto supplies spark every revolution as per usual, and the half-speed rotor sends it to alternating sides of the engine. When it works, its OK. When it doesn’t, it can drive you around the bend figuring out what to repair.

                  As acquired, my magneto was stone cold dead, so I hooked up my buzz-box and was getting spark delivered to each plug as designed, but it wasn’t as consistent as I liked, so I did some rehab work to tighten things up in the distributor and eliminate what I considered to be excessive slop in the assembly. The housing is Bakelite and you have to be careful about applying pressure on it anywhere, so this is not a simple job, but it got completed and the rotor fit in the housing as well as the housing fit in the crankcase cover is much more stable than it was, so the rotor wobble is pretty much eliminated.

                  I can’t get my motor to run quite properly yet, but I think its a valve problem and not so much the ignition. I know that compression can be an issue in these motors, but I’m generating 55 lbs per cylinder so I don’t think lack of compression is a contributing factor. but I digress….

                  I haven’t figured out how the motor Harry is working on managed to be built and sold without the distributor assembly being on it, but that appears to be what has happened. Very odd. Would be interested to know what Brook Newcomb can tell you about it.

                  if worse comes to worse, you could hook up an Elto coil and try and run it like that. You’d be firing both plugs every revolution, but my Detroiters and Cross Seagulls run that was as well and since they are true four-stroke engines, it has no effect on how they run, as for every other revolution the plug merely fires at the end of the exhaust stroke and accomplishes nothing.

                  Hope this helps.

                  Best,
                  PM T2

                  #286746
                  The Boat House
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                    It is isn’t a issue to have a spark plug fire on
                    the exhaust stroke as long as it fires on the
                    compression stroke. A failing plug that doesn’t
                    fire on the compression stroke but will in free
                    air, ignites the fuel on the exhaust stroke as
                    there is no pressure, because the exhaust valve
                    is open. This will result in a backfire through
                    the exhaust. The result can just be a loud bang
                    up to damaging parts of the exhaust including
                    blowing it off the motor. Not a common
                    occurrence but something I have experienced,
                    more than once, with this type of ignition.
                    Tubs
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