Home Forum Ask A Member 1930 Johnson A-50 Coils – Replace or ?

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  • #258993
    AverageJoe
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      Hi,

      I’m in the process of restoring a 1930 A-50.  I’m ordering new spark plug wires as the originals are toast.  The question I have is should I also go with new coils?

      Don’t know if the old ones are workable.  It looks like the old wires were just soldered on top as there’s no connector or tab, etc., (that I can see).  Having trouble finding a proper substitution as I don’t see anyone reproducing the old style, that I’m aware of.  I’m leaning towards new parts since I have this all torn apart.

      Wondering what options are out there…  If you were me, what would you do?

      I’m brand new at this, my first motor.  Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

      Thanks a lot.

      #259010
      Buccaneer
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        This is off of my A-45 Johnson. The wires on this one come off the bottom, but
        I assume you have a similar magneto plate with a single, dual secondary coil.
        If your coil test okay with an ohm meter, then I’d go ahead and use it.
        Care is required installing new plug wires so the “hair” thin windings in the coil, under
        the plug wire doesn’t overheat.
        If the coil is bad, there may be options of a coil swap. Search the forums, should be
        lots of examples.

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        Prepare to be boarded!

        #259043
        lyks2tinkr
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          A test with an ohm meter on the coil secondary should tell the coil health. Not sure what the actual reading would be on an A50 coil but I would assume from testing many Johnson coils that the value would be 3000 to 8000 ohms.

          Johnson coils unless physically damaged have withstood the test of time and are almost always good.

           

          #259051
          Tubs
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            A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

            #259062
            RICK EICHRODT
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              Lifetime Member

              I believe the Johnson A-50 is the first generation of Johnson’s alternate firing twins.  I also believe that they used two coils, one for each cylinder up until the AT’s and LT’s which used one coil and grounding out the side for spark that is not ready to fire.  So, the A-50 has two coils.  If you are replacing the wires, be careful.  Cut the old wire off of the coil leaving about 1/4″ or so tail so you can solder the new wire directly on the tail, NOT onto the coil.  Use minimal heat meaning just enough to melt the solder and stick to the tail.  After you solder the new wire onto each coil, then test the secondary ohms.  You should get a reading of say between 1500 ohms to say 5000 ohms.  If you get no reading it means the secondary circuit is open and the coil is shot.  I hope this helps and I am sure if I am found incorrect, I will be beaten senseless with a dead trout.

              #259079
              Buccaneer
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                US Member

                Rick, glad you set me straight. That’s what I get for “assuming” that the A-50 is
                like my A-45!

                Here’s an A-80 magneto, but I ain’t gonna assume it’s the same as the A-50!

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                #259084
                Mumbles
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                  The A-50’s 72-875 coils were used in many alternate firing motors thru the 40’s.

                  I don’t think they are as quite as durable as Johnsons dual firing single coils as I had issues with the ones in both my KA-37 and KA-38 motors.  I also see people advertising for them from time to time.

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                  #259097
                  AverageJoe
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                    Thanks for the help guys.

                    Yes, it does have 2 coils, it’s very similar looking to the A-80, almost exactly.  I will start with that and let you know how it works out.

                    Appreciate the information.

                     

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