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  • #277631
    Buccaneer
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      I got the subject motor running two years ago, but
      the gas tank was mangled, I cut the bottom of the tank
      out, pounded what dents I could and had someone
      weld it back up last December.
      Somewhere in the two year period the special banjo
      fitting bolt that attaches the fuel line to the carb,
      disappeared.
      I thought perhaps it got borrowed, but a walk-about
      didn’t find any motors with that style connection.
      Anyone have a photo of what that bolt should look like?

      The carb body has a chamfered hole where the bolt goes in,
      and the fuel line end has a chamfer in the opposite direction.
      I’m not sure if there’s suppose to be a special washer or two
      plus a bolt, or what the bolt should look like to make it all
      leak proof!

      Thanks,
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      #277635
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        Earlier in the day when I was trying to figure out the gas line connection,
        and searching on the forum, the only thing that came to mind was
        a “Bayonet” fitting. As I was typing the query above, “Banjo” came
        to mind, and Lo and Behold, I found one of my old post
        on an Evinrude Sportfour with a similar style set-up.
        I doubt if they take the same bolt, but these photos might allow
        me to cobble something up!
        https://www.aomci.org/forums/topic/1938-evinrude-sportfour-fuel-line-connection/

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        #277646
        Tubs
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          I’m pretty sure that all the motors they used this
          banjo fitting on were the same size.

          Tubs
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          A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

          #277648
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            Thanks, Tubs,

            I’m in the process of trying to make a bolt out of brass.
            Perhaps not the best material for the application, but easy to machine.
            If all else fails, I’ll take the front engine cover off the Sportfour to
            see if it fits, and perhaps use it for a pattern to make a better one.

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            #277652
            Tubs
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              They were made of some type brass, then nickel plated.
              I can send you one to copy but it will be awhile.
              Tubs
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              A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

              #277658
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                Tubs, I “think” I have a working bolt now.
                It took me most of the day, but it snugs up the
                banjo fitting nice, with little pressure.
                I still have to make a screen for it, and perhaps try
                it out tomorrow.
                Thanks.

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                #277666
                Tubs
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                  A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

                  #277674
                  labrador-guy
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                    Buc that is just AMAZING!

                    dale

                    #277676
                    Bob Wight
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                      Another great piece of work by Buccaneer Machining!

                      Bob

                      1937 Champion D2C Deluxe Lite Twin
                      1954 Johnson CD-11
                      1955 Johnson QD-16
                      1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18
                      1958 Johnson QD-19
                      1958 Johnson FD-12
                      1959 Johnson QD-20

                      “Every 20 minute job is only a broken bolt away from a 3-day project.”
                      "Every time you remove a broken or seized bolt an angel gets his wings."

                      #277690
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                        Well, my “banjo” bolt seem to work great, but I did have a slow drip.
                        A worse problem was gas bubbling out around the poppet valve cover.

                        Looking back in my records, I see that I ended up installing different pistons,
                        rods, new rings, etc., as the original pistons had a lot of pin slop.
                        It might take a while to get the new rings to set in, but the compression seems
                        good.

                        It wouldn’t stay running in the video so I put the camera away.
                        Came back to it a few minutes later, started on the first pull,
                        and stayed running, but it quit pumping water after a couple
                        of minutes so I shut it down. 🙁
                        It stayed running with the carb needle about 1/8th turn open.

                        Took the motor back to the workbench and took the carb back off
                        to address the fuel leaks. The Poppet valve “Stop” (cork) was a good
                        5/16″ above the valve stem when closed. It seem like way too big
                        a gap, so I made a new stop out of Derlin rod, and the gap is now
                        1/8″. Any idea if there’s a general rule as far as “gap” on these poppet valve
                        carbs? Does the gap even matter as long as the valve can open a little way?

                        I didn’t see much of anything for sea weed plugging the pump screens,
                        and while my test barrel is pretty murky, there shouldn’t be much sea weed!
                        I blew into the tell-tale outlet with my air hose, and there didn’t seem to be
                        any obstruction. Not sure if the metal impeller sheared a pin, or if it’s just
                        time to clean the test barrel.
                        I didn’t get to re-try the motor afterward, as it decided to rain the rest of the afternoon.

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