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  • #277997
    Buccaneer
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      There should be a “set screw” holding the lever onto the needle shaft.

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      #278030
      Ed Voll
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        Well, with my iPhone I took a .mov movie of this Evinrude motor running which impressed me . I just can’t upload the movie on this site. So Tubs, you were right not to give up on the motor. I have spark, fuel system is clean although I will have to take apart the carb since it was running really rough and just quit after about 30 seconds. questions: I did not see water coming out of the small spout behind the exhaust manifold. how do I know if the impeller is working ; where does the cooling water exit , a blowhole or out of the exhaust pipe? also, when I primed the carb to start, fuel was leaking out of the screen under the carb. I don’t know what that is about. thanks for any help.

        Ed Voll

        #278031
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          You would have to upload your video to another site such as YouTube, then
          link to your video there.
          I’m not sure where water is supposed to exit the powerhead on your model,
          but thirty seconds may not have been long enough of a run to see if it’s working.
          If you primed the carb by holding up on the poppet valve pin, that allows gas
          past the poppet valve, and into the engine. Any excess will run out that intake
          screen on the bottom.
          Sounds like you’re “close” to having a running motor…… keep at it!

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          #278033
          Tubs
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            Overflow when priming is normal.
            As to your water issue I’ve never had one of
            these but I do have a picture (I think) of
            your motor. It looks like it has a pump rather
            than an impeller. Pump systems have 2 check
            valves. Most likely one or both are dirty or stuck.
            I’ve offered some guesses as to what you may
            find. You seem to have the mechanical skills
            to understand what you’ll find once you get in
            there.
            Tubs
            .

            A "Boat House Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

            #278044
            Ed Voll
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              You would have to upload your video to another site such as YouTube, then
              link to your video there.
              I’m not sure where water is supposed to exit the powerhead on your model,
              but thirty seconds may not have been long enough of a run to see if it’s working.
              If you primed the carb by holding up on the poppet valve pin, that allows gas
              past the poppet valve, and into the engine. Any excess will run out that intake
              screen on the bottom.
              Sounds like you’re “close” to having a running motor…… keep at it!

              thanks, Buccaneer for the idea of a YouTube video. I may do that, it sputters and coughs , then quits, but after 87 years, it was exciting for a newbie like me. And Tubs , thanks for the above picture, of course, that is my motor exactly right down to the screen! this gives me some leads to see if the pump is somehow hindered or a problem with the check valve. will keep at it.

              Ed Voll

              #278045
              Ed Voll
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                I just made my first YouTube video and it is of the stalling ’36 Evinrude we have been discussing :

                https://youtube.com/shorts/haE95gyU2-E?feature=share

                Ed Voll

                #278049
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                  Ed, it sounds like it has the potential to be a good runner!
                  I’m guessing it was running a little “rich”.
                  Do tear into the water pump, but I also suggest having
                  the motor sit down further in the water, and if it was angled “back”
                  like sitting on the transom of a boat, it would be better all around.
                  If you’re going to make “outboards” a hobby, you’re going to
                  need a better test tank anyway.
                  Keep up the good work!

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                  #278059
                  Tubs
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                    Watched your video Ed. I think Buck is correct.
                    Leave the magneto lever near the 4:00 o’clock
                    position. Then keep closing the mixture screw
                    until it takes off. Then you’ll need to pull the
                    trimming lever back some to slow it down.
                    That looks like a really nice example.
                    Should be a great running motor once
                    you become familiar with it.
                    Tubs
                    .

                    A "Boat House Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

                    #278189
                    Ed Voll
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                      THANKS



                      Overflow when priming is normal.
                      As to your water issue I’ve never had one of
                      these but I do have a picture (I think) of
                      your motor. It looks like it has a pump rather
                      than an impeller. Pump systems have 2 check
                      valves. Most likely one or both are dirty or stuck.
                      I’ve offered some guesses as to what you may
                      find. You seem to have the mechanical skills
                      to understand what you’ll find once you get in
                      there.
                      Tubs
                      .

                      I took apart the water pump a bit. the piston is connected to a take-off from the drive shaft. it was clean and not scored. I put a bit of grease on it before I put it back in the pump cavity. At the base of the cooling water copper tube, there is a check valve/ball valve. this ball valve moved freely when rotated back and forth. I blew air through it easily one way but air was blocked going the other way. The filter screen was at least average in cleanliness with a light making it through from other side. I did not see another check valve. there is a fine crack in the check valve body but with the holding nut in place I think there is no issue.
                      everything looked OK so wondering if cooling water actually exits through the exhaust pipe along with the engine fumes; that would explain my not seeing it shoot out of what I thought was a little blowhole under the exhaust manifold.
                      it could be that the cooling system is working fine?

                      Ed Voll

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                      Ed Voll
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