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    Buccaneer
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      Said subject rewind originally had the steel core rope, with the hook
      soldered on, that hooks into the pulley assembly.
      I replace it with “non” wire core, nylon starter rope.

      I had to use fairly skinny rope in order to get a knot that would
      not interfere with rotating parts. Twice the knot pulled out of the
      pulley as the motor started on the fourth pull….. strange.
      Anyway, I now used an old “hook” end from a steel core rope,
      and drilled the hole out (that the cable went thru, and was soldered to),
      so the rope goes thru the hook, and then tied a knot.

      Hopefully this works, but if not, anyone have a better tied and true trick?

      When I put the rewind together originally, I noted that the rewind action wasn’t smooth
      and was noisy, when the rope was pulled. After I took it apart again, I saw that the rewind spring
      rides on the housing casting’s ribs. I remember some other rewinds had a tin plate that the
      rewind spring rode on. There was none shown on the parts list (unless it’s part of the housing,
      and not shown separately?)
      I made a tin plate and installed it. World of difference now.
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      #259811
      billw
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        That’s a nice tin plate! I take it that there is enough overall clearance for it to all fit! I have noticed on a few chain saws, they have used a nylon material about .015″ thick, instead of the tin. It works really good but eventually wears out.

        As for anchoring the rope, sometime, I have to take some pictures….but what I do is use an old, thin needle bearing and drive it through the end of the nylon rope, about one inch from the end, which forms a T with the rope. The T catches in the pulley where the old hook used to attach.  I lightly heat the nylon rope, to help shrink it and capture the needle bearing. The only catch is that you have to drill a small hole in the pulley, opposite of the hook hole, for the other side of the needle bearing to insert into. This way, the needle bearing will be pulling on the upper and lower parts of the pulley at the same time, and not want to twist out. Obviously, you don’t want the needle bearing sticking out too far on the spring side of the pulley, though….just flush. Mercury uses pretty much the same method on a lot of their recoils. This isn’t really totally my own idea.

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        #259821
        Buccaneer
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          US Member

          Bill, That’s a good idea. I don’t work on many Mercs, but I have seen that method
          before. Thanks for reminding me! I believe on the ones I’ve seen with the pin
          through the rope pulley, there was just a knot in the rope, behind the pin.

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          #259822
          elgin2
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            US Member

            I used a spring out of a spark plug boot. Ran the rope thru the spring and tied a knot. Then use the hook end to catch the recoil.

            #259830
            crosbyman
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              Canada Member

              crazy glue the knots….

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              #259831
              Buccaneer
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                US Member

                I used a spring out of a spark plug boot. Ran the rope thru the spring and tied a knot. Then use the hook end to catch the recoil.

                Another creative solution!

                 

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                #259832
                Buccaneer
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                  crazy glue the knots….

                  I usually use a lighter to melt the nylon rope end a tad to make it
                  less likely to come apart. The knots didn’t come apart, but rather
                  pulled thru the pulley. If I made the knots big enough not to pull
                  through, then they would interfere with the cog on the flywheel.

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                  #259841
                  billw
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                    Bill, That’s a good idea. I don’t work on many Mercs, but I have seen that method
                    before. Thanks for reminding me! I believe on the ones I’ve seen with the pin
                    through the rope pulley, there was just a knot in the rope, behind the pin.

                    No knot behind the pin on Mercs…

                    Long live American manufacturing!

                    #259911
                    Buccaneer
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                      I had to replace the rope in another same style rewind as the Buccaneer,
                      this one a Johnson TN-28, originally using the wire core rope.
                      I took photos of this one, showing using the original wire rope hook,
                      drilled out for the new rope to fit through, with a knot behind it.
                      I think this should work okay.
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