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  • #40390
    mnmarty
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      All excellent ideas. I’m concerned about then carb too. I’ll open it up and check where the float sits.
      I know the pump and in line fuel filters are pointing the right direction.
      All my connections are super tight. When priming the ball with no motor running there is no leakage of fuel anywhere.
      No kinks in line and replaced line from fuel pump to carb and from engine to pump yesterday (pulse line), so I know they are clear and good.
      When I pump the ball I can see gas swirling in the carb glass bowl, so I know there is flow.
      Since the only moving parts in the fuel pump are the diaphragm, I feel confident the pump is not the problem. I had the issue before and after replacing the gasket and diaphragm.
      Clearly a fuel delivery issue. There is always the carb to check and recheck.
      I feel the lines in the motor are sound and tight.
      I feel the pump is working as it should.
      I removed the carb filter as a source of restriction. I have an in line filter that is new.
      I’ve replaced the gas line to the carb and pulse line.
      So all I have left is line from tank and primer ball and check carb. Also clean barb from engine to pulse line.
      If I do the tank directly to the fuel pump test, do I need the tank above the motor, like sitting on the dock?
      Thanks so much for everyone’s input. I know you have all felt my pain at some time in your lives.

      #40392
      fleetwin
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        You do not need to raise the fuel tank if you connect its hose directly to the inlet side of the fuel pump, the pump is still in the system and doing its job.
        But, that brings me to another point…Are you running the engine in a test tank? If so, perhaps your fuel tank is down too far below the engine and the pump isn’t strong enough. Try raising the fuel tank a bit, like where it would be if being used on the boat.

        #40399
        mnmarty
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          I’ve been doing all the work in the old aluminum fishing boat while the wake boarders are making tsunamis. It’s a lot of fun. The tank is where it normally is. The ball is facing up.
          Thanks for asking, though. Good idea.
          I’ll do the carb inspection and direct tank experiment tomorrow when the lake traffic dies down.
          Fingers crossed!

          #40405
          amuller
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            I have often seen that an unknown filter or screen gets missed. Sometimes there is one in the inlet fitting of the pump, though I don’t know about Mikuni. Sometimes a metal screen look superficially OK but is blocked by corrosion. Have you undone all the hoses and checked for a swollen or kinked inner tube? Can you borrow and try a different hose/bulb assembly?

            #40410
            jerry-ahrens
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              It sounds to me like a carburetor issue. If you squeeze the primer bulb and fill the carb bowl, the motor should run for a couple minutes untill the fuel supply in the bowl is empty, even with a bad fuel pump. It looks like you have a Sierra carb kit there? I have had some of those kits cause me to chase my tail, and cause weird running problems. If it were me, I’d toss that and get a kit from the dealer with a new float, needle and seat, etc.
              I’ve been seeing a lot of aftermarket fuel lines deteriorated internally this year, falling apart on the inside causing a restricted fuel flow. Even though the fuel hose and bulb look good on the outside, the inside could be falling apart.

              #40457
              mnmarty
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                Thank all of you for your help and suggestions.
                Here’s what happened. I put the tank on the dock and attached to the fuel pump intake. The gas line at this point is empty and filled with air. I started the engine and it ran for a few seconds. Then died. I wondered if the pump can draw the gas from the tank all by itself or if because it’s filled with air no gas is getting to the carb. I placed the ball on it and drew gas to the line then quickly attached to the fuel pump. OK now I know there should be constant flow of gas. I pulled and pulled and pulled and nothing. Couldn’t get it started again! This made no sense. There should be gas flowing to the carb just by gravity. So I figured it must be the carb like everyone suggested.
                I cleaned it out again and made sure the float was level. It was a little up and clearly needed to be adjusted.
                Put everything back together and I put on another line and ball I had from another setup. Pumped the ball and could clearly see gas flow into the bowl and it seemed like with more squeezes I could see more swirls (like it was finally filling the carb!)
                Pulled three times and WOW!!!! Runs better than ever. Why not? I replace practically everything in it.
                I don’t think it’s the new ball and hose. I am convinced it was the float adjustment as was pointed out earlier. I don’t think the chamber was ever filling with enough gas.
                You guys are great! Thanks for sticking with me and giving me the direction to keep on going.

                #40460
                fisherman6
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                  Great! Glad to hear another success story! 😀

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                  #40467
                  chris-p
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                    Fantastic, now go boating!

                    #40474
                    cajuncook1
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                      Post a video of the old girl running for us. That is a treat all by itself! Congrats!

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