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    JohnRude
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      While waiting for parts for an abused 54 10 hp Johnson, I decided to move on to the 1958 10 hp Johnson. There seem to be many differences with the 58. Putting the gear train back into the gear case, the first thing I notice is that there is no centering pin for the front bearing and the hole in the bearing is filled in. The bearing seems to lock in place as it should. If the pin broke off at some point it happened a while ago. The motor has been running. Every other gear case I have worked on has had this pin.

      The second thing I notice is there is no “spacer” (305304) in my motor which seems to be unique for the 58. It shows in the gear case group in the parts book. I assumed that this piece was for the long shaft version but I can’t find any reference for it anywhere. Mine is not a long shaft motor.

      Does anyone no why they down sized this motor from earlier years? The clamping bracket and tilt mechanism are from a 7.5 hp and the whole gear case is about the same size as a 7.5. The 54 and 55 10 hps were very beefy. More like the 18s.

       

      #290941
      seakaye12
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        US Member

        Well the brochures said it was to save weight.  They shifted from the beefier 5 bolt gearcase to the lighter smaller weaker design formerly used on the 7.5’s.  It was most likely done to save weight and cost.  Not sure what year that happened;  might have been 1958.

        The difference has been noticed by 10HP Owners.  Maintenance is vital on the newer lighter gearcase;  little tolerance for water intrusion or inadequate lower unit oil.

        Lighter

        #290951
        fleetwin
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          US Member - 2 Years

          OK, well that spacer is absolutely required on this engine, along with the orings.  The 1958 10hp is a bit of a mix between the 10hp powerhead and the smaller 7.5hp midsection and gearcase.  The midsection is definitely unique to the 10hp from 58-63

          #290965
          JohnRude
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            Canada Member

            Thanks fleetwin. Apparently this motor was running without the “spacer”. Any idea what it was doing” It isn’t there in previous models. Not sure about later ones. Any idea why I don’t have a register pin in the gear case? I just checked a 56 gear case. It doesn’t have the pin there either. I hate 10 hp.

            #290992
            JohnRude
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              Canada Member

              Thanks everyone, especially fleetwin. I contacted the owner of this motor who had tried to fix “grampa’s” motor himself. “It was running perfectly when he put it away!!
              Well there were some left over pieces that he forgot to give me. Spacer is back in place with new O rings. As Crosbyman likes to say, “membership has it’s privileges”.

              #290998
              fleetwin
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                US Member - 2 Years

                Those gearcase dowel pins aren’t actually missing, they just got pressed flush into the casting when someone (previous owner) misaligned the hole in the bearing and assembled the gearcase.

                That impeller housing “spacer” helps seal the impeller housing by holding a certain amount of water in that tube when running, and keeping exhaust pressure away from this area.  Once the spacer/orings are in place, you will notice water spilling out of the exhaust housing around the driveshaft tube near the gearcase when the engine is running, this is perfectly normal.

                #291020
                JohnRude
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                  Canada Member

                  Thanks fleetwin. The bearing seems to be fixed in place as usual but what do you suggest? Drill out the pin and replace somehow…? I’m not even sure there is a receiving hole in the bearing to receive the pin.

                  #291037
                  fleetwin
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                    US Member - 2 Years

                    Hard to advise here.  Perhaps posting a picture or two might help out.   There should be either a hole in the forward gear bushing where the pin fits into.  Sometimes, when the units are misassembled, the pin puts a “dent/dimple” in the forward gear bushing/bearing, so you should check the fit of the bushing/bearing over the gear to make sure it rolls freely.

                    #291051
                    Steve D
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                      I think the original bearing for that motor had a slot instead of a hole. If the pin was pushed in, some just drill another hole next to the original one, in line with it and insert a new pin.

                      bearing

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