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August 12, 2023 at 2:11 pm #279113
A fine coating of sealer won’t hurt anything, unless it is overdone and gets into the reeds holding them open. You have the two different intake gaskets oriented properly so there is not air leak between the crankcases. Your buddy mentioned the engine runs “hot”, any evidence of overheat? When was the last time the engine ran? This engine has many small cooling passages that are easily plugged by salt water. Was the carb dirty/fouled when you cleaned it? Are you sure nothing is blocking that idle passage that runs up through the side of the bowl into the upper carb body? The engine runs on starting fluid, but won’t run on its own, correct? What happens when you just squirt fuel/oil mix in the carb throat, will it fire briefly then? Perhaps your fuel supply is old, or contaminated with some water. Once things start getting too complex, I always back up and recheck the simple stuff. Nine out of ten problems are relatively simple ones, that we complicate by looking for more serious issues.
The only other thing I can think of is perhaps the head gasket is blown from overheating, although your compression readings seem normal and even….
August 15, 2023 at 6:47 pm #279283Finally, 🙂
Used an ultrasonic parts cleaner to clean the carb (three cleaning cycles with 50-degree C heat), and now the motor is running (YEAH). Before I received the ultrasonic cleaner, I cleaned the carb using several brands of CARB/CHOKE & PARTS CLEANER SPRAYS to no avail. The carb must have had gunk or something that I could not get to.
Maybe if I would have soaked the carb in a cleaning solution for several days, then try the spray cleaners, I may have had the same results, but the varnish would not come off using just the spray. The ports and seats on this carb are super tiny and have to be very clean.
Again, Thanks for all of the helpful replies, the members in this club are AWESOME!
P.S. (now all I have to do is get the other 50+ motors I have running as good as this one). LOL
August 15, 2023 at 7:32 pm #279285Sorry fleetwin, I did not see your most current reply.
There were no signs of over-heating, and someone gave this motor to my friend saying, “it runs fine but gets hot”. There is no telling when was the last time the motor ran (probably 20 to 30 years ago). The first thing that I did with the motor was try to see if it truly would run. With all the problems I found with this motor it was probably given to my friend because had too many bad issues. Broke the motor completely down, cleaned all water passages, and replaced all gaskets. Tested the water flow through the motor and was now normal. Water pump was providing good pressure, but I changed the impeller just to be sure.
After restoring the water-cooling system, I then started working on getting the motor to run. Both coils were bad, one spark plug was bad, and the cork float in the carb was dried out and cracked. Re-built the carb due to the bad float, O-rings, and gaskets. Varnish on the needle valve had to be scraped off. Installed new needle valve and seat.
This is when the motor would barely run. After super cleaning the carb, the motor will now start on the first pull. Glad to get it out of my shop. I never charge for parts or labor to get old motors running again, because I enjoy it and I learn something new each time. Thanks again for the help.
August 15, 2023 at 8:06 pm #279287with 50+ motors to revive you need these 🙂
Joining AOMCI has priviledges 🙂
August 16, 2023 at 9:07 am #279293Sorry fleetwin, I did not see your most current reply.
There were no signs of over-heating, and someone gave this motor to my friend saying, “it runs fine but gets hot”. There is no telling when was the last time the motor ran (probably 20 to 30 years ago). The first thing that I did with the motor was try to see if it truly would run. With all the problems I found with this motor it was probably given to my friend because had too many bad issues. Broke the motor completely down, cleaned all water passages, and replaced all gaskets. Tested the water flow through the motor and was now normal. Water pump was providing good pressure, but I changed the impeller just to be sure.
After restoring the water-cooling system, I then started working on getting the motor to run. Both coils were bad, one spark plug was bad, and the cork float in the carb was dried out and cracked. Re-built the carb due to the bad float, O-rings, and gaskets. Varnish on the needle valve had to be scraped off. Installed new needle valve and seat.
This is when the motor would barely run. After super cleaning the carb, the motor will now start on the first pull. Glad to get it out of my shop. I never charge for parts or labor to get old motors running again, because I enjoy it and I learn something new each time. Thanks again for the help.
Great news! Yeah, most carb cleaners of today won’t break solid gunk. Soaking them too much can lead to casting porostiy as well, so the ultrasonic is always a great option.
The thing to remember about these engines is that they normally run a bit hot. The exhaust cover is not water cooled, so it will get hot, the head gets hot as well. Temp readings are taken from the starboard side of the engine block. All that being said, they do have some small cooling passages that love to get plugged up in salt water.
Sounds like you have successfully tackled many issues and revived this nice old engine. I always liked these engines, although they didn’t idle as nicely as the 3hp models they replaced, but much more powerful. I know the factory says that 50:1 is fine, but going a little heavier is best for these engines that have “plain rod bearings”. I have seen many 4hps with holes in the block where the rods said “good bye”.
Nice work!
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