1976 Chrysler 120 outboard help needed

Home Forum Ask A Member 1976 Chrysler 120 outboard help needed

Currently, there are 0 users and 1 guest visiting this topic.
Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 20 total)
  • Avatar
    rcwd21


    Replies: 10
    Topics: 2
    #208016

    Hey everyone, I havent been on here in a very long time but I recently picked up a 1976 Chrysler Hydro-Vee with a 1976 Chrysler 120hp 1209HD outboard.

    According to the serial tag it is a 1209HD but when I’m looking at parts diagrams the 1209HD doesnt have a section for the distributor. Are there other 120hp models that didnt use a distributor or is it just an incomplete listing?

    I could really use some help so in the future I can make sure to order the correct parts.

    USER_SCOPED_TEMP_DATA_MSGR_PHOTO_FOR_UPLOAD_1594134949131_6686286593683907627

    USER_SCOPED_TEMP_DATA_MSGR_PHOTO_FOR_UPLOAD_1594134959446_6686286636944461384

    USER_SCOPED_TEMP_DATA_MSGR_PHOTO_FOR_UPLOAD_1594134970946_6686286685181825906

    Attachments:
    Avatar
    rcwd21


    Replies: 10
    Topics: 2
    #208021

    Also here is a pic of the serial tag. If there are models without distributors it would make sense that this power head has been swapped since it seems to have been removed at someplace point due to there being clear silicone around the exhaust/ powerhead base gasket area

    20200707_204706

    Attachments:
    Avatar
    rcwd21


    Replies: 10
    Topics: 2
    #208093

    Does anyone have any ideas? I’ve searched up and down and cant find anything other than parts diagrams

    Avatar
    billw

    US Member - 2 Years
    Replies: 1246
    Topics: 40
    #208099

    Can’t get to them right now but I have some Chrysler microfiche, someplace. I will check tonight. So your question is really whether there is another 120 model WITH a distributor? Or do you want verification that YOURS is supposed to have a distributor and your parts diagram is flawed?

    Long live American manufacturing!

    Avatar
    billw

    US Member - 2 Years
    Replies: 1246
    Topics: 40
    #208200

    Okay, it wasn’t microfiche. It was on Mercury’s dealer site. Don’t know if this will work or not…

    Chrysler-120-parts

    Long live American manufacturing!

    Attachments:
    Avatar
    elgin2

    US Member - 2 Years
    Replies: 108
    Topics: 27
    #208210

    If that doesnt work,go to iboats.com,the Chrysler/Force forum. JerryJerry and Nordin are Chrysler gurus.

    Avatar
    rcwd21


    Replies: 10
    Topics: 2
    #208212

    That’s a much better parts diagram than what I’ve been looking at, thanks.

    Avatar
    rcwd21


    Replies: 10
    Topics: 2
    #208222

    YOURS

    And also for my question, my model number is 1209HD which does not show a distributor in its parts listing but my unit has a distributor so I’m trying to find out if it’s been swapped or if some of them just came that way

    Avatar
    rcwd21


    Replies: 10
    Topics: 2
    #208225

    Ok so heres a new major issue I’ve run in to.

    My water pump housing is corroded pretty bad and I’m looking to find either new or used to replace it.

    The part number on the housing is 474060. That number comes back to a 77-78 55hp Chrysler.

    The part number “required” for my unit is FK500060. These 2 parts do not look the same and even the wear plates are different.

    Do I get an identical replacement of what I’ve already got or do I get the mandated part numbers?

    Is there really any difference between the 2 pumps? I noticed that there are 2 slots on the wear plate for the 120 and only 1 slot on the 55hp one. I’m at a loss on this so any help would be appreciated

    Attachments:
    bobw
    bobw

    US Member - 1 Year
    Replies: 1070
    Topics: 41
    #208233

    A search for some Chrysler motor parts requires searching by specific motor serial number. Your motor serial number indicates the FK500060 is the correct pump body. Marine Engine doesn’t have one available but does your 474060 pump look like this one? If so, the FK500060 might just be a superceding part number.

    http://www.marineengine.com/newparts/part_details.php?pnum=MERFK500060

    Bob

    1954 Johnson CD-11
    1956 Johnson RD-18
    1958 Johnson QD-19
    1959 Johnson QD-20
    1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18

    "Every 20 minute job is only a broken bolt away from a 3-day project."

    Avatar
    rcwd21


    Replies: 10
    Topics: 2
    #208234

    It looks identical to that from the top yea but searching FA474060 comes back to only fitting a 77-78 55hp so that’s where I’m confused.

    The impeller for both of them is the same but the underside of the FK500060 looks different to mine.

    Mine has a little notch I guess would be the best term where the impeller spins, where as the 500060 is completely round where the impeller spins.

    bobw
    bobw

    US Member - 1 Year
    Replies: 1070
    Topics: 41
    #208235

    Don’t know – maybe a previous owner or service tech stuck the 474060 on there because they had one available. The parts diagram billw posted and a quick search I did all say 500060 is the correct part number so that’s what I’d use. Maybe a Chrysler expert can weigh in on this. When I worked in my uncle’s car service business in the 1970s, we always hated working on Chrysler cars because they often changed part numbers or part sizes/configurations on the same vehicle during a single year of production and it was always a PITA trying to figure out the correct part number to order in advance of taking the thing apart. Maybe their outboards were the same hassle??

    Bob

    1954 Johnson CD-11
    1956 Johnson RD-18
    1958 Johnson QD-19
    1959 Johnson QD-20
    1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18

    "Every 20 minute job is only a broken bolt away from a 3-day project."

    Avatar
    rcwd21


    Replies: 10
    Topics: 2
    #208236

    I’ve been digging around and part number 474060 can be interchanged with part number 475060 which fits 55 to 75hp models and that’s a visual match to my part, and the base plate on a 75hp model is the same as my 76′ 120hp and in searching for that I found that kit number fk1033-1 fits 75hp through 135hp units from 75′ to 80′ with the split style gear case which is what I have.

    I feel like it’s a case of mix and match because it fits and works or that Chrysler did indeed randomly change things up mid run without explanation.

    bobw
    bobw

    US Member - 1 Year
    Replies: 1070
    Topics: 41
    #208237

    Sounds like you found the right way to go. Keep us posted on progress as you bring this one back to life. I was never a big fan of them, but Chrysler outboards had a reputation as being simple and reliable. A guy I worked for years ago had a pair of 1971 120s on his offshore boat and swore he’d never run any other motor.

    Bob

    1954 Johnson CD-11
    1956 Johnson RD-18
    1958 Johnson QD-19
    1959 Johnson QD-20
    1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18

    "Every 20 minute job is only a broken bolt away from a 3-day project."

    Avatar
    rcwd21


    Replies: 10
    Topics: 2
    #208239

    It sat for 2 years and has 150psi on all 4 cylinders, it’s fairly clean minus the usual sludge crud that builds up from fuel and oil.

    Only parts needed so far have been carb kits and water pump kit.

    The prop cone broke partially on me today when I accidentally dropped it and the little linkage that adjusts the distributor has broken from age but I’m going to try to pin and epoxy it back together with some safety wire as well.

    It’s on a matching 19ft Chrysler hydro- vee boat that needs some work but for $500 it’s a great starting point and well worth getting going again

Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 20 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.