2 hp Johnson or Evinrude — should I get one?

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    overland


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    #216490

    I’m thinking of getting a 2 hp johnson or evinrude to mount on the side of my rowing dory, in the way that small motors are mounted on canoes. Are these little motors any good? I’m thinking of doing this in order to take my dad fishing, when I need to cover a little more ground than I can rowing. I’ll appreciate any advice.

    frankr
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    #216507

    What are you considering, a new one? Old one?

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    overland


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    #216513

    Older ones: one from 1982, the other from the 90s, both Johnsons. There’s also an older Tanaka 2.5 available in the area, another lightweight one-cylinder motor.

    frankr
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    #216516

    The 1982 is a tried and true motor, and I like them. The only thing I don’t care for is if the water pump housing wears out, you have to replace the whole gear housing. But to be fair, it will last a long time if your water is decently clean in your area. Or not salt water.

    I can’t comment on the 1990’s, no experience with those. Were they made in Hong Cong???

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    reivertom

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    #216519

    The only thing to watch for in the Johnsons is low compression. For that reason I’d get the ’82 model because I don’t think the ridiculous 100 to 1 oil ratio was in effect then (maybe?), and it was probably run with the correct 50 to 1. I have an 84 model that I bought from a fellow that belonged to his dad. He had one just like it for sale at the same time that had very little compression left because he’d run it on 100 to 1 mix, per the stupid instructions on the tank. His dad bought them both at the same time, but the dad ran 50 to 1 in his and it had plenty compression. I bought the dad’s and I passed on the other one. That little light motor would be perfect for your needs. Also parts are available pretty reasonable and they are easy to work on.

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    fleetwin

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    #216524

    Those 80s 2hps are good engines…Simple, pretty rugged and reliable, easy to service. Needless to say, a fresh water unit is a much better bet. But, like others have said, these engines aren’t very tolerant to cylinder/piston skirt wear. You will know when one is “worn out”, will be hard to start, won’t idle well, and be low on WOT power. The mid 70s -80s models have a plastic tank, which is preferable to the metal ones that fouls and rusts out found on earlier models. I don’t know why, but these things seem to command big money…. Those OMC/hong kong units from the 90s aren’t worth bothering with, will be tough to find parts for.
    The latest water pump kits for these engines are expensive, but feature a SS liner and cup that fit inside the gearcase housing, so a replacing the gear housing is no longer necessary. .

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    cajuncook1

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    #216531

    I agree with the above statements.

    Just a suggestion: You would be better served getting a Johnson or Evinrude 3hp outboard. Made from 1952 to 1968. They are very good, solid, and reliable motors. Very easy to work on and all the parts are still available. The larger fuel tank would give you a good bit of range compared to the 2hp motors. They can mount on the side of the boat/canoe or on the transom easily. Do a You Tube search on these motors and you will be quite impressed. You would probably get a motor at a much better price than the 2hp Johnson/Evinrude.

    Cheers

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    dave-bernard

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    #216538

    just got a 3hp the other day.

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    billw

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    #216548

    I agree that the 3 is a better motor but the two is lighter and easier to stow in a small place. The lightness factor would seem to benefit, when mounting a motor on one side of the boat. Stay away from the Tanaka. They are air cooled, loud and basically a weed wacker with a prop. (Which is why I call them “wave wackers.”)

    Long live American manufacturing!

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    overland


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    #216550

    Yes, the 3 would be a better motor, and I’ve been working on one lately to get it going. But I began to consider a 2 h.p. when I saw how light they are compared to the 3 h.p. I also saw a video of someone using one with a boat very much like mine, mounted on the side. I just did get one that became available here–a 1982 model. If it doesn’t work out, I’m pretty sure I can sell it. As someone observed here, they seem to fetch a premium, especially in running condition.

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    fleetwin

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    #216551

    OK, so it seems like you have already bought the 82 2hp, correct? I guess step one is to check compression, although readings may vary due to the small combustion chamber and gage check valve location. Have you had the engine running? If so, how does it start and idle?
    You will need to decide just how much you want to service on the engine if it starts and runs OK now. I would at least pull the prop, check for fish line in the seal, and change the gear lube. These engines only have one fill drain screw, so you will have to tip the engine up and just let the lube drip out slowly due to the air lock. Filling will be tough also, best done with a little oil squirt can. You will need to tip the engine up with the drain hole facing up, fill until the lube seems to flow out of the fill hole, then let it sit for awhile so the air bubbles purge, then repeat this fill process a few more times until you are sure the gearcase is actually full.
    Making this engine a reliable daily runner will mean servicing the water pump, ignition, and fuel systems as well.
    Post some pictures of the engine with any questions you have….D

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    overland


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    #216563

    Haven’t picked it up yet, but this is good advice. Meanwhile, does anyone have any suggestions for how far back I should try to mount it? I’ll mount it on the side, as on a canoe, though my boat is a 17′ wooden dory that weighs about 100 pounds.

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    MARC BOUCHER

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    #216681

    I just want to concur with Cajuncook1’s post – I’ve had two different 1952 3 hp motors and they were fantastic. Easy to work on and reliable! Plus, they look cool.

    Boats: '47 Dunphy, '64 Starcraft
    Motors:
    '53 Evinrude 25; '54 Evinrude 7.5; '55 Evinrude 7.5; '56 Evinrude 30 Lark; '56 Evinrude 16; '58 Johnson 18; '60 Evinrude 10; '64 Evinrude 40

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    dave-bernard

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    #216712

    Got my 63 lightwin running today . coils condensers clean points clean carb new fuel filter impeller. good for another 50 yrs.

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    billw

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    #216730

    A 17′ wooden dory that weighs 100 pounds? That is some light wooden boat….is that right?

    The further back the engine is, the better maneuverability you will have….

    Long live American manufacturing!

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