Home Forum Ask A Member 6039 Speeditwin Drive Shaft Bearing Race

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  • #187238
    Buccaneer
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      I got the new bearing and race today for the drive shaft.
      I tried putting in the race four different times but I
      can’t seem to get it started straight. I’m not trying
      to put it in a “dirty hole” as the photo might suggest.
      I’ve been using “all thread”, washers, and nuts, to
      try to draw the race into the bore through the drive shaft
      galley.
      I’m using the old bearing in the new race, thinking it will keep the
      race square to the bore, but no luck so far.

      Is it necessary to heat the gear case “race area” while
      installing the race?

      I wouldn’t think that close of tolerance would be necessary.
      The new race does measure as the exact same OD as the old one.
      It’s rather a pain getting the crooked race back out each time. 🙁
      Thoughts? Thanks.

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      #187241
      RICHARD A. WHITE
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        OR freeze the race….

        http://www.richardsoutboardtools.com
        classicomctools@gmail.com

        #187250
        The Boat House
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          Be sure you haven’t but a bur in there and try both.

          #187260
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            I got the race in finally this morning after two tries. Sanded the bore with a scrap of
            sand paper, pushing it back and forth with a pencil, eraser end. That didn’t give
            me any luck getting the race in, so I mounted the race in the lathe, using an
            arbor of sorts, and polished it down about .001 of an inch.
            Then re-tried, and it felt like it was starting straight by “feel” this time, so I hooked up my
            all thread affair and drew it into the bore with no problem.
            Cheating, perhaps, but no one with know but me, and I’m sure you
            won’t tell anyone!

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            #187263
            mercuryman
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              I think I have your prop shaft check your PM

              #187280
              Buccaneer
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                I think I have your prop shaft check your PM

                Email sent. Thanks.

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                #187281
                Buccaneer
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                  So now that I have the drive shaft bearing race installed, I wanted
                  to install the prop shaft bearing race before I paint the lower unit.
                  I installed the same thickness of shims under the driveshaft race
                  that were under the old race. As much trouble it was to get the
                  race “out and in”, I’m hoping not to have to monkey with that again.
                  Assuming there’s a little wear on the gears, I might need more
                  shims under the prop shaft gear to end up with minimal backlash.
                  Which leads to the problem, that if I don’t have the correct thickness
                  of shims under the new propshaft race, I’d have to remove the race
                  and “try again”. There’s no built in provision in the gear housing
                  to be able to get under the race to pull it back out, and the race
                  does not just drop in the bore. (is it suppose to?) I know some
                  gear housings have notches to allow one to get under the race
                  to use some type of puller.
                  Should I just add an extra few thousands worth of shims to
                  allow for gear wear, and “Hope for the Best”?
                  How did Evinrude suggest removing the races in these Speeditwins?
                  I’m not sure what the purpose of the gear case nose “plug” is, but
                  even if I managed to drive it out, I don’t see that hole in being of
                  any help removing the new race if I have to.
                  Ideas, Thoughts?
                  Thanks.

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                  #187314
                  dave-bernard
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                    How about making your own notches.

                    #187323
                    garry-in-michigan
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                      Several special tools were used in final assembly. It helped that the units had not yet been subjected to abuse or corrosion. The installation tool pushed against the perimeter of the race as pushing on the taper had a tendency to increase the diameter. The extractor was a thick pipe of sorts split into six sections and tapered toward the end leaving a lip at the end to catch the inner diameter of the race when expanded with a cone shaped center section. After a few hundred gear cases the technician knew from the ware pattern of the white grease used just how many of various thickness of shims were needed to center the contact pattern on the gear teeth. Not having a lathe, I used my Dremel tool to remove enough material to use a three jawed expansion puller on my slide hammer. Most of the time just tightening the jaws is enough to pop it loose. (I am not above modifying existing tools to do the job) It also worked well with pulling worn shaft seals.

                      #187335
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                        Thanks for the suggestions. I will investigate your ideas and see what
                        I can come up with.

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