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August 18, 2017 at 1:38 am #7942
What is the difference between 1963 & 64 Evinrude 28hp motors?
1963 is 24 to 1 oil mix, 1964 is 50 to 1. Was there any internal or bearing changes
that would prevent me from going to 50 to 1 on my 63 ?
Thanks , MikeAugust 18, 2017 at 1:45 am #63336The only way that it can take 50:1 is if its fully jeweled.. IE has roller bearings for every bearing.. easiest way to know for sure is to look at a parts digram for it..
the 1963 i know for a fact was pre full jeweling for OMC.. in a nut shell the brass bushings they used for bearings tend to not like 50:1 fuel oil mix for very long.
August 18, 2017 at 2:28 am #63346Both motors appear to have bearings on the wrist pin end of the connecting rods, so not much if any difference inside. that said, oil is cheap and worth the peace of mind to stay at 24:1.
JMHO
August 18, 2017 at 11:40 am #63356There were no changes in the powerhead, the 50:1 was a mixture change made across the board….
I would stick with the 24:1 mix, a little extra oil provides a nice safety net in cases where the engine might encounter some heavy stress.August 18, 2017 at 2:40 pm #63365OMC, in my impression, really did not do a good job of handling the fuel mix question and associated environmental controversies. Sometimes changed guidance is associated with changes in the motors, and sometimes is just a changed corporate policy associated with political correctness. To put this another way, you can’t really trust what is pasted on the motor or printed in the owner’s manual.
Of course, it’s desirable to use the minimum amount of oil necessary to protect the motor. Most OMC motors with rolling element bearings on the mains and both ends of the rods should be OK at 50-1 (but I expect to get jumped on for saying so.) I would personally not run any motor at 100-1. Most motors for which this was advised can tolerate *running* this mixture, but there is no margin for error in mixing and inadequate protection in storage.
Most 2-strokes used in ultralight aircraft, where you *really* do not want the engine to fail, seem to use 50-1.
August 18, 2017 at 11:00 pm #63388You have to remember from the mid 1950s to the mid 1960s the engineers were still learning about lubrication. The first synthetic oil by Lenard Oil in Michigan was a total disaster. A lot went into research and development, but the quality of oil available to the public ran from super to useless. We tested a half a dozen oil additives all guaranteed to reduce friction, improve milage, prolong engine life and make you a better lover. One thing they did have in common is, they did lightened your wallet. One, Bardoil did show results. It put a hard film on bearings and cylinder walls that eliminated metal to metal contact. We did see a slight increase in horsepower after a few tanks of fuel. Further testing revealed the film continued to build until the engine seized up. Evinrude recommended you use it only in every fourth tank of gas. So the outboard oil developed by Evinrude was required to be used by them to work at fifty to one. They were immediately challenged by the legal departments of several oil companies who said there oil was just as good. The result being that Evinrude could recommend but not require. So, to answer your question, in 1963 there was still a lot of questionable oil available. In 1963 Better oils were on the shelves. The motors did not change – the oil did. . . 😆
August 18, 2017 at 11:23 pm #63391There used to be a lot snake-oil marketing claiming that with their special magic oil anything could run at 100 to 1 or whatever. Seems to me there is less of that now.
My Lawnboy mower (from around 1969) says 16-1, or 32-1 with Lawnboy (OMC) oil. I can see the point: before there were adequate industry standards the only way to control quality was to provide a known quantity directly (and maybe make a few bucks….).
August 19, 2017 at 12:10 am #63398Compare the parts lists for the 1963 and 1964 28hp motors and report back with the results. I can wait. Might as well compare the tolerances too, while you are at it.
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