Elto Quad project

[Paul Munson]

I am just getting going on another one of my barnyard rescues. I have freed plenty of two cylinders but this is the first time I have had to deal with 4 pistons stuck so it may be a bit of a challenge unless I get lucky and find it is not all of them that are stuck. The motor is fairly complete without too many quick fixes to be found so far. I do have a couple questions and anything anyone else would like to add to help guide me on any pitfalls while rebuilding this motor would be great.

1. The timer is broken as you can see in the pictures. It does seem to be complete though. Would it be better to braze this back together or get someone to tig weld it. Or does it even matter, will either work.

2. On the backside of the timer there is a short section that looks like a sprocket. There is also a piece mounted to the side of the exhaust that looks to hold a cable for controlling the speed. Is this normal or just a setup added for remote control. I am missing the tiller arm at this point so I cannot tell for sure how the control works. All I know is the timer looks different than my ’28 quad or any ruddertwin timer I have seen.

As of now I am missing the tiller arm and the prop. So….If anyone has a lead on either of those it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul

[Paul Munson]

More pictures

[HARRY D. NICHOLSON]

The pictures show a 1929 Quad. TIG welding is best for aluminum.

[eltoquad]

The ’29 Quad came with a steering handle that included a twist type throttle handle. There was linkage, not cable, going to tiller handle. Many of them are missing these parts. Your cylinder covers, also often missing, are not shown in photos. They are not easy to find or cheap.

[BROOK E. NEWCOMB]

If my memory is correct I believe that Art Dekalb sells repro covers.

Respectfully,

[Paul Munson]

Fortunately the cylinder covers as well as the coil covers are present. I had just taken them off to get a better look at what was going on underneath. My worst fear was a cracked cylinder but so far it seems to look good. I will look at Art’s site for the repro covers. Would you happen to have some pictures showing how the tiller arm looks and operated. It would help give me an idea on what I need to look for as far as parts to convert it back from remote control. I am also in need of one of the covers for the bottom carburetor as well. Thanks.

[BROOK E. NEWCOMB]

I can certainly do that but it would not be until tomorrow. Someone here maybe able to provide you with pics sooner.
If you are referring to the float bowl cover I believe that Art Dekalb sells repro covers for those as well.

Respectfully,

[wbeaton]

I can’t be of much help. All I can provide is inspiration.

https://youtu.be/glYmAu5pejM

Wayne
Upper Canada Chapter

uccaomci.com

[Paul Munson]

And that you are! I did find this video after my post which gave me a good look at the tiller. It looks like this setup is manual control on the timer which is reassuring. Worst case scenario if I get this motor unstuck I could fab up a tiller to work while my search is on for an original. Thanks for the post. These videos help explain quite a bit as to getting them started. I also seen a thread you had earlier on a rebuild of your ’28 quad. I learned a few tricks there as far as cooking the heads to cure the paint. Now I just need to get that device you use to cut gaskets. Paul

• This reply was modified 4 years ago by Paul Munson.

[BROOK E. NEWCOMB]

With no disrespect to anyone I am very familiar with this Quad.
It was owned by two very close friends of mine.

First was the late David Schell
David put this tiller on this motor it was removed from a speeditwin.
( not correct for the 29 Quad )

2nd was Bill Andrulitus who spend many many hours of machining
time inside this Quad and many more dialing it in to run as well as it
does today.
It is now owned by another member in Canada.
It’s amazing how well traveled these motors can be
as they change ownership

Truly a great Quad!

Respectfully,

• This reply was modified 4 years ago by BROOK E. NEWCOMB.

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