December 18, 2016 at 4:53 pm #5919
How likely is it that an Evinrude 1/2 HP Mate (’39-’41) late production would have a model number 4264 like a 1/2 HP Cub (also ’39-’41) instead of 4263 for the Mate as shown in most model ID information? I’m looking at a Mate that appears original but has 4264-xxxxx on the model and serial number plate. Thanks from a new member.
Canada Member - 2 Years
Topics: 432December 18, 2016 at 6:08 pm #49368
Parts get switched around over the years and there is that possibility with the motor you are looking at. Although the same inside, the 4263 Evinrude Mate was a bit more stylish than its cousin, the 4264 Elto Cub. The Mate had side covers while the Cub was open with an exposed fuel tank, similar to the Pal.December 18, 2016 at 11:54 pm #49382
Thanks for your reply. Can anyone tell what year this might be between 1939 and 1941? It’s serial number o5xxxx.December 19, 2016 at 4:13 am #49404
The Elto Cub cost $29.50 in 1941, the Evinrude Mate was $34.50. More Cubs were sold plus some Mate owners lost covers. This made Cubs more common and Mates more valuable. Many collectors put Mate covers on Cubs to increase there value. No Mate or Cub production numbers survived World War Two. The parts books just grouped them together. All three years books are exactly the same. . . 🙄
Topics: 7December 19, 2016 at 5:48 am #49406
Evinrude Mate serial numbers for 1939 are 4263-00001 to 4263-03474.
1940 are 4263-03475 to 4263-04055
1941 are 4263-04056 and up.
Elto Cub serial numbers for 1939 are 4264-00001 to 4264-04062
1940 are 4264-04063 to 4264-05164
1941 are 4264-05165 and up.
That info is found in Evinrude-Elto Service Bulletin Number 28 dated April 1, 1949 which gives Trade-in values for used motors.December 19, 2016 at 2:34 pm #49423
Great information! Thanks for your quick reply.December 19, 2016 at 2:40 pm #49424quote Garry in Tampa:
Thanks Garry!December 23, 2016 at 8:12 pm #49650
Can someone tell the correct Champion spark plug for the ’39 Evinrude Mate. I’ve looked and found conflicting information. Thanks, Jim
International Member - 2 Years
Topics: 19December 23, 2016 at 10:22 pm #49654
I found an old Champion J-4 in my Evinrude model "MATE"
looks original ( I hope )
.December 23, 2016 at 10:40 pm #49655
The 1939 Mate/Cub DID come with a J-4 Champion. That number was changed to J-12 which became J-12J then J-12C. They had problems with people stripping out the threads in the cylinder head, so 1940 & 1941 models had longer threads and used a Champion H-10J. . . 😀
December 24, 2016 at 1:14 am #49665quote kees:
Cool! I’m getting a nice 1939 Mate (4263) next week and buying a Champion J-4 for it to keep its original originality. 🙂December 24, 2016 at 1:17 am #49666
Thanks again Garry. I have a early Mate coming next week and want to get the correct plug for it! JimDecember 24, 2016 at 2:41 am #49667
The J-4 you buy today is a lot colder plug than the J-4 of the 1930s. The new Champion number is 592. . . 😕
December 24, 2016 at 2:57 am #49668
Thanks again Garry for the information. I’m buying a vintage J-4 so I should be good to go to maintain originality.
Indian Group Leader
US Member - 2 Years
Topics: 8December 24, 2016 at 3:42 am #49670
Some of you guys may be losing your touch. Perhaps SoFlaEvinrude should take a look at the freeze plug on the side of the powerhead. If the numbers stamped on the freeze plug do not match the model/serial number plate, someone may have stolen a transom clamp assembly or serial number plate from a Cub and put it on a Mate. If the numbers match, someone may have installed some Mate side covers on a Cub. Not sure why anyone would want to do that, but I have seen stranger things than that done to these old motors.
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