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September 11, 2023 at 8:10 pm #280488
I decided to get a back up motor after not being to fish for several weeks due to problems with my 15. I bought this 6 hp long shaft for $100 and was told it wouldn’t pump. New water pump and still no water coming out of exhaust. Water pumps great from water pump to thermostat housing there also isn’t a clog from the thermostat housing to the exhaust. I dumbed food colored water and it’s coming out well . The thermostat is missing, so I know it’s not stuck open or closed. Not sure of next step? I’m going to order a new thermostat and gasket for this motor.
September 12, 2023 at 8:00 am #280500OK, alot of info in your post, so I want to take time to make sure I understand…
First, you state that no water (or even spray) comes out of the exhaust relief port, correct? With everything assembled while running, is the engine actually overheating?
You stated that with the thermostat cover removed, water does flow out of the top of the cylinder head while running.
It is your next statement that needs clarification though. When you dump colored water down into the cylinder head, does it pour out of the exhaust relief?? Or, does it simply disappear down inside the exhaust housing?
Is this engine used in fresh or salt water?
I have a “guess” as to what is going on, but will withold it until I’m sure I understand everything you have said.
September 12, 2023 at 9:38 am #280504OK, alot of info in your post, so I want to take time to make sure I understand…
First, you state that no water (or even spray) comes out of the exhaust relief port, correct? With everything assembled while running, is the engine actually overheating?
You stated that with the thermostat cover removed, water does flow out of the top of the cylinder head while running.
It is your next statement that needs clarification though. When you dump colored water down into the cylinder head, does it pour out of the exhaust relief?? Or, does it simply disappear down inside the exhaust housing?
Is this engine used in fresh or salt water?
I have a “guess” as to what is going on, but will withold it until I’m sure I understand everything you have said.
I have food colored coming from thermostat housing out if exhaust relief, so no clog in exhaust relief tube. Fresh water motor as far as I know.
I have pictures but they can’t seem to load on here
September 12, 2023 at 9:40 am #280505Photos
September 12, 2023 at 11:48 am #280513OK, so plenty of water coming up to the thermostat. The cool red dye shows that the passage out of the block is at least somewhat clear…
Does the engine actually overheat?
Any evidence of water on the plugs? Just trying to think of why the water would exit when not running, but not when running… And only one thing comes to mind.
Perhaps the head gasket is blown in such a way to block water flow. Perhaps the water is getting so hot it is boiling off before reaching the relief port. Any signs of hot steam coming for the exhaust relief?
The water exits the block through a very sharp elbow at the bottom of the block on the stbd side. Salt and debris gets caught in here easily. You mention that the engine is a fresh water engine, so salt build up seems unlikely, although sometimes even fresh water leaves a crusty debris, along with those crazy mussels.
Perhaps the base gasket is messed up, or there is a defect in the exhaust hsg cavity allowing the water to “short circuit” into the exhaust housing instead of flowing out of the relief port.
So, I guess I would start with a simple compression test. An uneven reading could indicate a bad head gasket. If compression seems OK/even, and the engine actually overheats, then I would probably pull the head and powerhead. The bolts shouldn’t put up much of a fight because this is a fresh water engine. Have a real close look at that tight water elbow on the bottom of the block, look for crud on the cylinder water passages, and check those thermostat passages carefully as well. Maybe we should start with the thermostat passages. If one of the passages is plugged, it may prevent water from exiting the block… But, now I am remembering you saying that the engine behaves the same way even with the thermostat removed, so this theory seems unlikely, although it might just be one of the channels/passages in the thermostat cap has come crap in it preventing the water from exiting. Start with this theory before digging into the other stuff, even though I didn’t think of it until the end of my reply. Perhaps someone used the wrong thermostat gasket, or made their own as well. Always start with the simple stuff!
September 12, 2023 at 4:18 pm #280530Solved! There was a ton of crud in the passage between the gasket and top of thermostat housing
September 12, 2023 at 9:23 pm #280545COOL! Forgive me for almost misleading you… Just a lesson we/(at least myself) must keep re-learning! Never ignore the simple stuff. Nine out of ten problems are usually relatively simple ones, once we overlook the simple stuff we end up creating more confusion and problems for ourselves… Glad this good ol engine is back in service.
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