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  • #196202
    Buccaneer
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      Started on the magneto for the 1938 Johnson MD-38 and
      find that the coil’s secondary winding is “open”
      Anyone tried an OMC coil swap on this type magneto before,
      and succeeded?

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      #196271
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        Decided I wouldn’t be out much to destroy a bad coil, so I knocked the guts out of it.
        It all came apart easy.
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        The inner core, cleaned up..
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        The laminates separated..
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        OMC type coil too big around 🙁
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        #196277
        Buccaneer
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          Had this “Military” specs Scintilla type coil in the cabinet for a rainy day…… or
          a 37 degree sunny day, in this case. It’s the same diameter as the original
          Johnson coil, and close to the same length.
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          Removing the laminate core from the Military specs coil fought me the whole way.
          I had to cut off some of the laminate pieces on one end, then start driving them
          out with a punch. The punch kept binding up. I ended up switching to using
          the tang of a small flat file, which I had to grind down some to make the tang longer.
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          I finally got the core out, and the coil still test okay on the ohm meter!
          I was hoping to be able to use the laminates out of this coil, and just add the
          center piece from the original coil, that has the mounting holes for the mag plate,
          but that option went out the door when I got out the hack saw. I’ll have to grind
          down the original coil laminates to fit, but I had enough fun for today!
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          #196338
          Tubs
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            The PM picture I sent
            is about this substitution.

            A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

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            #196371
            Buccaneer
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              The PM picture I sent
              is about this substitution.

              • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by Tubs.

              Tubs, if you’re talking about the photo cropped together of the mag plate and
              Lockwood lower unit, I’m still not sure what coil you used.

              Looks like you had to grind a little off of the coil case…..
              how do you know how much you can grind off before it’s too late?

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              #196420
              Tubs
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                A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

                #196444
                Buccaneer
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                  Tubs, I understand now! The military style coil I’m using on the MD38 didn’t have
                  laminates long enough to span the mag plate mounting bolt holes. I would have liked
                  to re-used the laminates (except I’d still would have needed the longer one from
                  the original coil that’s has the mounting holes) so I wouldn’t had to grind the original
                  laminates down to 3/8″ to fit the military style coil. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get
                  the laminates out of the military style coil without destroying most of them!
                  The laminates in the original coil came out in about 30 seconds!

                  I finished refitting the laminates in the military style coil this morning, and am
                  cleaning up the rest of the mag plate now. Hopefully I’ll be checking for
                  spark on the new coil in a few days. Got new rings today, so I can put the
                  power head back together any time. Have to take a couple hours off and get
                  more firewood to heat the shop…… Hopefully not next year, lol.

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                  #196472
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                    I got the military specs coil mounted today, and after these photos were
                    taken, soldered on the spark plug wire. Also test fitted the flywheel for
                    clearance around the coil. I “think” it will be okay, but hard to tell until
                    the powerhead is fully back together.

                    Now, I’m wondering what mfd cap or condenser I should use
                    for this coil? Can I assume / hope that the rating would be the
                    same as a singe cylinder Mercury using the Scintilla coil?

                    Thanks.

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                    #196534
                    David Bartlett
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                      Wow, Tom! You make this stuff look easy. Nice job.

                      David Bartlett
                      Pine Tree Boating Club Chapter

                      "I don't fully understand everything I know!"

                      #196550
                      Buccaneer
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                        Some of the conversion was easy, and some I worked way harder than
                        should have been necessary!
                        Got the rest of the mag together today. I ended up cramming two .1 mfd
                        caps in an old condenser can, mounted where the original condenser was.
                        That reminds me, I need to order some .20, or .22 axial caps again.
                        I got rid of all the soldered wiring joints, (as they were like the MS-38
                        shown) coil to points, condenser & kill post, which will make taking it apart
                        easier, if needed in the future, like if my conversion doesn’t work!
                        Also put the powerhead back together today, which brings up another issue,
                        but I’ll start a new post for that.

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