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March 22, 2025 at 8:02 am #294828
So I had my meter on the wrong range. One coil still looks open but the other two read 16k. I’ll move forward with one of those.
Can some explain why I need to ground one plug wire to see spark on the other. I’m assuming it has to do with having a single coil. Thanks
March 22, 2025 at 1:46 pm #294832OK, I can explain… It’s all about those little electron guys always wanting to go back home. In electronic terms there always has to be a complete circuit for electricity to flow. In the case of the usually encountered single spark plug wire ignition coil what is not oblivious, and you usually can’t see, is that one end of the secondary winding is connected to ground. The other end goes to the spark plug, thus forming a loop circuit with the SP gap in the middle. So, the little electrons running the “loop” have to jump that gap to get back home. On your two-lead coil, neither end of the secondary winding is directly connected to ground… we call this an “ungrounded coil” or a floating coil. Now thinking about the electrons running the “loop” , visualize it this way… the coil fires, the electrons leave one end of the winding run to one spark plug, jump the gap to the SP body and the engine block, run through the engine block to the other SP jump that gap ( but in the opposite direction) and run “home” to the other end of the secondary winding.
That is why one MUST have one SP wire grounded to check for spark on the other wire. Firing the coil absent a complete ground path loop risks damaging the coil, as that high voltage will seek a path to ground,.. internally to the coil.
Hope this helps.
Joe B
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March 24, 2025 at 6:44 pm #294867Let’s go back to the picture you posted…I don’t see the wire that comes up through the mag plate at the points mounting area….if that’s correct, you don’t have your condenser connected! Thus, no spark. I looked to see if there was any mention of condenser condition in all the posts and I don’t see one.. So, is the condenser not connected because the wire is missing?? Or, is it and I can’t see it?
PO coils were among the most durable of all. That’s why they were used in both PO Johnsons and also the Evinrude Storm Boat motor for military use. One thing I have discovered is, there were 2 variations of PO coils. Some have resistance of 8-900 ohms, and others have 1500 or more. The two things I look for in determining a good coil is, resistance of any number (good) and no resistance (open secondary, no-good). If you ever resolder your plug wires, make darned sure the existing surface is clean so you get quick solder reaction. You absolutely don’t want to have to apply heat for long period of time. Always pre-tin the plug wire before soldering to the coil tabs, and once soldered, don’t move the wire at all until thoroughly cooled.
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March 25, 2025 at 8:58 am #294876What George said about soldering … be sure to use a high heat (heavy) soldering copper, the little ones used for electronic work will not but out the heat needed to do a quick job. And with all due respect… I believe that the resistance numbers that George quoted are off by one digit … should be 8 -9000 and 15,000 ohms
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