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    ml_mcm
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      I’ve been jumping around from one motor to another trying to get some what look to be easy fixes completed before it gets too cold and work on the challenges this winter.

      right now I have a TD-20 with no spark.  Coils look to be good with 3.5k secondary resistance.  I do have other coils with 7K secondary from a pile of parts and could swap them if more is better?

      The coils also look to be ok with a jump in my meter when I check them.  I have some coils that slowly rise in resistance and stop at a fairly big number and others that jump up then go to out of range/open on the meter.  Again, is the quick jump better than the slow roll?

      For points, it’s the push rod type with the magnet on the drive shaft.  Any help in best way to make sure these are good is appreciated.  I’ve done a little 400 grit (I know some don’t like this) on them and cleaned off with alcohol but any further advice on making sure these are good is appreciated.

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      #264875
      Buccaneer
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        Take the point apart, clean half at a time. 320 grit is a good
        starting paper, but I always follow up with finer grits, 600,
        800, or sometimes ever 1000 grit.

        The condensers should be replaced. It’s not worth messing around
        with old condensers whether they test good or not, IMHO.

        Your coils probably are okay.

        To set the coil laminate / heel gaps, I usually use three .010 strips
        of shim stock to put between the coil heels and the magnetic rotor.

        Let us know how you make out.

        Prepare to be boarded!

        #264877
        ml_mcm
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          Take the point apart, clean half at a time. 320 grit is a good
          starting paper, but I always follow up with finer grits, 600,
          800, or sometimes ever 1000 grit.

          The condensers should be replaced. It’s not worth messing around
          with old condensers whether they test good or not, IMHO.

          Your coils probably are okay.

          To set the coil laminate / heel gaps, I usually use three .010 strips
          of shim stock to put between the coil heels and the magnetic rotor.

          Let us know how you make out.

          Thanks.  I have one new condenser installed and it didn’t  fix the issue which is why I think it’s the points. I gapped the coil laminate at 0.012 and just made sure the heels did not hit

          Appt with some bass tonight so I’ll pull the points tomorrow and clean them up and report back.

           

          #264881
          frankr
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            I agree, take the points completely apart, degrease everything, and polish each contact individually.  Do one set at a time and don’t lose any of the little insulators.  I’ll bet you get spark.

            Here are the rotor specs if you want to get it right.  But they are very forgiving.

             

            Coil-rotor-clearance

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            #264959
            lloyd
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              I agree with Buccaneer and Frankr.  After you get a good spark you will surely need new leather primer seals for the carb and  instructions to install them.  If so, you can contact me or just send $10.00 US cash (no checks or money orders) and a self addressed stamped envelope to me:  Lloyd Lautner  9289 North Long Lake Road   Traverse City Michigan  49685.

              #265274
              ml_mcm
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                Well I used 400 to 1000 grit and cleaned up all the points.  Re-installed and gapped points and coils and gave it a go.  Fired up on second or third pull.  Didn’t run very long but I still have to do a carb lean or rebuild.

                Thanks for all the help

                #265276
                ml_mcm
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                  I agree with Buccaneer and Frankr.  After you get a good spark you will surely need new leather primer seals for the carb and  instructions to install them.  If so, you can contact me or just send $10.00 US cash (no checks or money orders) and a self addressed stamped envelope to me:  Lloyd Lautner  9289 North Long Lake Road   Traverse City Michigan  49685.

                  Lloyd,

                  prob going to need some seals from you so keep an eye on the mailbox

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