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    Alan
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      Hello to all;
      Didn’t want or need another stray to care for, but couldn’t pass it up, for $40.
      I seem to remember seeing plenty of questions on these Montgomery Ward motors, and I’ll assume it’s not something which is rare or fought over.
      But it seems like a cool old motor, w/out a lot of hours. I’m pretending the gearcase and prop still have the original paint on them, which would mean it hasn’t been beaten, starved, neglected, or left outside. Also hope that aluminum starter rope handle is original; gotta love that.
      I’ll clean it up and out, and see what it does in a barrel.
      I see where the model number tag was on the transom mount, but it’s long gone.
      Number stamped into the cylinder is 102274. If the always-to-be-believed internet is right, several folks have done searches on motors like these, with these numbers. Certainly not unique.
      I’d appreciate knowing the year, maker, and any general information which anyone cares to share.
      Many thanks, and happy motoring to all;
      Alan


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      #61516
      frankr
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        US Member

        What does it say on the round disk on the starboard side? Should have I.D. on it. I can tell it’s an Evinrude, but my smarts end there.

        #61521
        Buccaneer
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          US Member

          Looks like this 1940 Sea King 1 hp

          https://youtu.be/QOUopdEmEks

          Prepare to be boarded!

          #61524
          labrador-guy
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            US Member

            These are neat little motors. Sometimes a bugger to start, it takes some learning to get them right! You need the numbers that are on the soft plug on the engine block. My motor pictured, 447 denotes a 1938. Look for those numbers and go to this site.

            http://www.discount-marine-parts.com/ob_sea_king.html

            At the bottom of the page you should be able to figure out a few things about that little egg beater!

            dale


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            #61530
            The Boat House
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              Often referred to as the Sea King Midget.
              I have one also. They were sold before and just after WW-II.
              and are in the Pal, Scout, Ranger family. Some parts
              Interchange. An example would be everything from
              the cylinder down as an assembly from a 1937 Pal
              or Scout. That is what you’re seeing on my mine.
              Why they chose to use a pump on this motor is
              beyond me. I’ll switch this two stage impeller
              arrangement as its very efficient and doesn’t wear
              when I run mine. Only to preserve the pump as the
              one I have is in really nice condition. Motors after
              WW-II have a permanent magnet rotor on the
              crankshaft as opposed to iron magnets cast into the
              flywheel that you’ll find on the Pal, Scout, and
              Rangers from before the war.
              Most people see little value in them as an outboard
              motor today but “back in the day” if you grew up
              rowing or dragging around 70+ pounds of brass and
              cast iron these little 1hp. motors were considered
              quite an advancement in technology.
              105 or corn head grease for the lower unit. I
              normally run 3 oz of oil per gallon in my motors
              but its not enough to create a seal in the bearings
              in these 1 hp. motors. 4 oz. of oil per gallon seem
              to be enough. I run a little extra to be sure.
              To start (if everything is adjusted right) with the
              gas on and the vent open turn the mixture lever to
              prime. Watch for a drop of fuel. Turn the mixture
              lever to around 2 and it should start on the first pull.
              Adjust the mixture to the best running position.

              #61533
              Alan
              Participant

                Info and pictures appreciated!
                Seems mine is a ’39 or ’40, 1 HP. This is a bit earlier than I’d guestimated, and I’m happy for that.
                What sort of water pump is used?
                Many thanks;
                Alan

                #61547
                The Boat House
                Participant

                  This comes from the clubs inner sanctum
                  model year guide. As a club member you
                  have access to a variety of information
                  as part of your membership. Take some
                  time to check it out.

                  #61567
                  garry-in-michigan
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                    Lifetime Member

                    That Sea King was thought to be a way to make money on obsolete parts taking up room in the warehouse. A ton of old parts were sold for scrap when the production lines were expanded to increase production in 1949. It was found in 1958, during the preparations for the Fiftieth anniversary, that one of the junk motors scrapped was the 1908 Prototype pre-production Evinrude. Ralf Evinrude was devastated. It was the "Coffee Grinder" that Bess had told Ole "…to make better" and he did. . . 😀


                    #61612
                    Alan
                    Participant

                      Ahh, love those pics!
                      Hard to hear that a prototype got scrapped; that’s a shame.
                      Based on the numbers on the plug, (469) mine’s either a ’39 or ’40.
                      So, the water pump is a plunger type? This will be my first, if so.
                      I’ve tried several times to access (locate) the Inner Sanctum, but can’t seem to find it even after doing several searches. I see it mentioned, and have requested and received other access as a member, but can’t seem to find it. I’d love to peruse that! Any suggestions welcome.
                      Appreciated;
                      Alan

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                      The Boat House
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