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December 15, 2022 at 6:37 pm #270011
installing new rings in a KD4. What is acceptable ring gap?
December 16, 2022 at 10:02 am #270023The old rule I remember, but from “automotive”, was .003 per 1″ of piston diameter.
Hence, a two inch piston, .006.
That would be acceptable minimum gap though……. How large a gap is another question.Prepare to be boarded!
December 16, 2022 at 7:57 pm #270040Everything You Need to Know About Ring Gap! (wiseco.com)
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fifty20ne.
December 16, 2022 at 9:44 pm #270045Careful, with that wiseco formulation, something is “fishy”, or my math is way off.
0.04 % of say 2 inch bore is only 0.0008 inch, way too small
and in the other interpretation of the formula … 0.04 X 2 inch = 0.080 inch , way too big
Joe B
PS, I just looked at air cooled small engine repair manual , typical ring end gap listed is 0.010 to 0.025 … and that is for air cooled engines, I think that on water cooled engines the tighter end of the range would be OK
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joecb.
December 17, 2022 at 8:26 am #270056December 17, 2022 at 10:17 am #270058Careful, with that wiseco formulation, something is “fishy”, or my math is way off.
0.04 % of say 2 inch bore is only 0.0008 inch, way too small
and in the other interpretation of the formula … 0.04 X 2 inch = 0.080 inch , way too big
Joe B
PS, I just looked at air cooled small engine repair manual , typical ring end gap listed is 0.010 to 0.025 … and that is for air cooled engines, I think that on water cooled engines the tighter end of the range would be OK
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joecb.
My rule of thumb has always been .003 to .004 per. inch
when not having a factory spec.
I believe 1% of an inch in .000 is .010
I interpret fifty20ne’s speck. to mean 4/10 of 1 % to
5/10 of 1 % which would be .004 to .005 end gap per. inch.
After seeing Bucks chart I will now use this as a guide
for 2 strokes when not having a factory spec.
“Typical ring end gap listed is 0.010 to 0.025 for air
cooled engines”. ??????
I can imagine what a 10/1000 to 25/1000 end gap would
apply to.
Tubs.A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.
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Tubs.
December 17, 2022 at 8:35 pm #270074My minimum gap is .008. To tight?
December 17, 2022 at 9:46 pm #270075Ref the chart that Bucc posted, your 0.008 looks just right
Joe B
December 17, 2022 at 9:59 pm #270076not to beat the dead horse… Tubs’ calculations are correct. 4/10 of 1% is 0.004. But. look again at the post in question, it shows 0.04% or 4/100 of 1% = 0.0004 ( for a 1 inch piston)
So, It looks like the “wesco” post just had the got the decimal point in the wrong place…typo!
Joe B
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December 18, 2022 at 1:11 pm #270088All good to know and useful information, however one has to start with a good cylinder. All wasted if cylinder is excessively worn or scored. Fortunately, the modular design of the Early K Model Kiekhaefers cylinders can be removed and replace with better cylinders from a parts motor, Boring to an oversized is not an option as oversize, rings and pistons were not offered and were not needed. Mercury did it their way.
Once a good cylinder AND piston are in hand then it is time to set ring end gap.
Louis
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