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    Boonie
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      installing new rings  in a KD4. What is acceptable ring gap?

      #270023
      Buccaneer
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        The old rule I remember, but from “automotive”, was .003 per 1″ of piston diameter.
        Hence, a two inch piston, .006.
        That would be acceptable minimum gap though……. How large a gap is another question.

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        fifty20ne
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          Everything You Need to Know About Ring Gap! (wiseco.com)

          • This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by fifty20ne.
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          joecb
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            Careful, with that wiseco formulation, something is “fishy”, or my math is way off.

            0.04 %  of say 2 inch bore is only 0.0008 inch, way too small

            and in the other interpretation of the formula …  0.04 X 2 inch = 0.080 inch , way too big

            Joe B

            PS, I just looked at air  cooled small engine repair manual , typical ring end gap listed is 0.010 to 0.025 … and that is for air cooled engines, I think that on water cooled engines the tighter end of the range would be OK

            • This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by joecb.
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            Buccaneer
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              Not Mercury, but I’m sure the general specs per engine size are similar.
              From the Johnson 3rd Edition manual……..

              Ring-Gap

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              #270058
              Tubs
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                Careful, with that wiseco formulation, something is “fishy”, or my math is way off.

                0.04 %  of say 2 inch bore is only 0.0008 inch, way too small

                and in the other interpretation of the formula …  0.04 X 2 inch = 0.080 inch , way too big

                Joe B

                PS, I just looked at air  cooled small engine repair manual , typical ring end gap listed is 0.010 to 0.025 … and that is for air cooled engines, I think that on water cooled engines the tighter end of the range would be OK

                • This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by joecb.



                My rule of thumb has always been .003 to .004 per. inch
                when not having a factory spec.
                I believe 1% of an inch in .000 is .010
                I interpret fifty20ne’s speck. to mean 4/10 of 1 % to
                5/10 of 1 % which would be .004 to .005 end gap per. inch.
                After seeing Bucks chart I will now use this as a guide
                for 2 strokes when not having a factory spec.
                “Typical ring end gap listed is 0.010 to 0.025 for air
                cooled engines”. ??????
                I can imagine what a 10/1000 to 25/1000 end gap would
                apply to.
                Tubs
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                A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

                • This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by Tubs.
                #270074
                Boonie
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                  My minimum gap is .008. To tight?

                  #270075
                  joecb
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                    Ref the chart that Bucc posted, your 0.008 looks just right

                    Joe B

                     

                     

                    #270076
                    joecb
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                      not to beat the dead horse… Tubs’ calculations are correct.  4/10 of 1% is 0.004. But. look again at the post in question, it shows 0.04%  or 4/100 of 1% = 0.0004 ( for a 1 inch piston)

                      So,  It looks like the “wesco” post just had the got the decimal point in the wrong place…typo!

                      Joe B

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                      #270088
                      green-thumbs
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                        All good to know and useful information, however one has to start with a good cylinder.  All wasted if cylinder is excessively worn  or scored. Fortunately, the modular design of the Early K Model Kiekhaefers  cylinders can be removed and replace with better cylinders from a parts motor,  Boring to an oversized is not an option as oversize, rings and pistons were not offered and were not needed.  Mercury did it their way.

                        Once a good cylinder AND piston are in hand then it is time to set ring end gap.

                        Louis

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