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    Denyse Reed


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    #193569

    I have inherited 5 really old outboard motors and I don’t know much about them. I am wondering if you can help me identify what motors I have, their approximate value and how I can go about selling them. I am in northern California. I have attached photos of the motors and some miscellaneous parts.

    Thank you for your time.

    Denyse Reed

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    olcah

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    #193570

    We have not received the photos.

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    Denyse Reed


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    #193572

    Trying again. Here are 4 of them.

    motor-1

    motor-2

    motor-3

    motor-4

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    Denyse Reed


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    #193578

    Here’s 2 more.

    motor-5

    motor-parts

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    olcah

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    #193581

    The green one that says Elgin is 1950s to early 1960s and 2-5 HP I think. Value is modest, these were sold by Sears. Maybe range of $20-$50. Others may have different opinions. I can’t identify the older motors. But other members will.

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    dave-bernard

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    #193602

    one is a waterwitch.

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    #193603

    First one looks to be a late 1930’s Champion…… may be good for parts. Maybe a $20 motor.
    Second one looks like a Sears Water Witch, early 40’s? Kind of rough, but maybe a $40 motor.
    Not sure on the third one.
    Fourth one may be a early 40’s Neptune. $40 maybe.

    All prices are my opinion. All common motors in MN, may be worth more in California?
    I would try to sell them all in one lump sum, or trade for something you need.

    Prepare to be boarded!

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    frankr

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    #193619

    Agree on the Champion. The air cooled Elgin is 2hp, made by West Bend (later called Chrysler). One of the few air cooled motors worth a hoot in my not so humble opinion. Actually, they work pretty well.

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    frankr

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    #193620

    The recoil starter and cup in the last picture does not go with that motor. It is a type commonly used on Clintons.

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    billw

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    #193635

    It’s very rare indeed, when any old outboard motor in obviously poor cosmetic condition, is worth much of anything. And asking us club members is not the best indicator of value; as we already have engines that are far more interesting than those. So, our values are going to be very, very low, for sure. We don’t try to low-ball. We just don’t need them. Fixing them up and getting them running is purely a labor of love; a money PIT, usually, unlike car restoration. All that being said, if you just want to flip the motors, I would try listing them on Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace. You’re somewhat likely to find someone who finds them more interesting. I would try doubling our meager price estimates, to have a realistic chance of selling them. Maybe list the Elgin for $100 and see what happens; as that one doesn’t look too bad. Either way, you are definitely not going to retire on the sales.

    Long live American manufacturing!

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    Denyse Reed


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    #193652

    Thank you.

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    Denyse Reed


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    #193653

    Thank you all for your time and for the information.

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    elgin2

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    #193731

    I agree with Frank. The elgin is a descent motor.

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    green-thumbs

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    #193750

    The photo of a cast aluminum gas tank and a powerhead is pretty murky
    but, it looks like they are Kiekhaefer (Mercury or Wizard brand) either
    prewar or immediate post war.
    Really sharp clear photos require a plain background, lots of extra lighting and a camera tripod. Helps if motors are clean, but, that is too
    much to expect of long stored motors.
    Early Kiekhaefer singles and twins are often incomplete, so there are
    lots of parts motors around lacking gas, caps, handle grips, cowl, spark
    plug coves and stuck powerheads. I like the little mercs.
    Louis

    (edit) I will go along with you on gas tank (my screen is low resolution)
    The powerhead seems to have the Kiekhaefer water jacket. I always
    hope to find a Little Merc, so maybe wishful thinking affects vision.

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    chinewalker

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    #193766

    The gas tank isn’t Merc, it’s Champion and likely came from the motor in the first pic.

    Two and Three are Waterwirches, and Four looks like a Neptune.

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