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[The Boat House]

The flywheel or at least the rope sheave
is from the very last years of production
and doesn’t fit with some of the other early
parts on the motor like the timer and the
prop rotation. I’m not knowable enough
to speculate any farther. Your going to
have to get a picture of the other side,
the rear, and a picture of the crankcase
for those who know these things can give
you some idea of what is there.

[brook-n]

quote JaniceP:

Hello members. We are hoping that you can help us determine the value of 2 antique outboards. One is an Evinrude stamped 1911 and the other is a Johnson of unknown age (but we seem to remember our Dad saying it was likely from 1914). No idea of the horsepower of either. We’d like to sell them, but need to know value. Hoping you can help! Thanks.

Hello Janice,
Your Dad would be correct. Based on certain features on the motor and the serial number 23761 it would be 1914.
It would be 2 horsepower.
The rope plate would have been added to the motor at a later date.

Respectfully

[chris-p]

Well there you go. Brook would know. I had 1 of the 2 right anyways. Ironically, I missed the fact that the Johnson was Canadian built lol.

[garry-in-michigan]

Two horse power may not seem like much, but it was double of what was the usual transportation of the day . . . 😆

[janicep]

Hello Wedgie and Mumbles. I am in North Saanich but the motors live in Ladysmith at my mother’s place. I have no idea if either motor runs or not. Thanks for the value estimates, Chris. John, I appreciate your info on year and horsepower. I will post the other photos I have of the Evinrude and will try and take more next time I’m at my Mum’s place.

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[jvinnbtx]

Janice,
In Alan Carter’s book "The American ROWBOAT motor" he shows a picture (pg 142) of an Evinrude model B with the rope start distinctive flywheel with the blue top and states that this was used on all 1926 to 1928 models. Motors prior to this were equipped with the ‘knuckle buster’ knob on the flywheel. Unfortunately this does nothing to clear up the serial number question. Model B serial numbers from 1926 through 1928 are listed starting at 126350 and up. Does anybody know if Evinrude ever manufactured motors in Canada this early with a different set of serial numbers?

[brook-n]

Unfortunately we can not always hang our hats on the accuracy of some of the model year guides that are out there for our use.
In most cases the guides are accurate.
However I have noticed that in some model year guides that there is no mention of 1913 & 1914’s being model B’s ( which they are )
Several guides show them as just having a straight serial number with no model letter listed.

In my experience Evinrude motor model & serial numbers were designated as follows:

From years

1910 – 1912 straight ser# with no letter designation for model.
1913 – 1914 were designated as being model B’s with a serial number following it.
1915 & forward would have seen several different letter models through to1928.

Please keep in mind that Evinrude did put out an accessory catalog offering items that may have been standard equipment on later year motors
for sale so folks could upgrade their earlier motors to the latest conveniences. Rope plates are a prime example of one of the offered upgrades.

In any event it certainly can make it a little challenging to determine the year of a motor unless you study & follow the changes from year to year closely.

Opinions may vary.

Respectfully

[janicep]

Thank you, Brook. Guess I’m going with the Evinrude being a 2hp from 1914 and the Johnson a 1.4 hp from 1935. Thanks to all of you who provided opinions and information. I appreciate it. — Janice.

[Mumbles]

Shoot me an email sometime.

OMC552 at Gmail dot com

[brook-n]

quote JaniceP:

Thank you, Brook. Guess I’m going with the Evinrude being a 2hp from 1914 and the Johnson a 1.4 hp from 1935. Thanks to all of you who provided opinions and information. I appreciate it. — Janice.

Your Welcome Janice,
If you have any further questions regarding your Rowboat Motor please feel free to reach out to me.

Respectfully

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