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  • #13397
    dave-bernard
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      what is your oil mix maybe it needs more oil to seal things up. just thinking.

      #13404
      Buccaneer
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        I believe the mix on this one was 2/3 pints to a gallon. I made a list in the garage of
        most of my outboards regarding what oil mix they each take…… amazing that
        so many of them were different! If all else fails, I’ll mix it extra rich. Thanks
        for the idea!

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        #13413
        Buccaneer
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          Thanks for the tips on worn out main bushings on the Neptune.
          You made a believer out of me. I got it running on the stand
          this morning for a few seconds. Killed it, removed the exhaust
          tube. Put it in the test barrel, and it wanted to run, but not quite.
          Put it on the stand, removed the prop, and test started it,
          and ran for a few seconds. Put the hyrophobic Neptune back
          in the test barrel and it actually started, but ran erratic, and
          for the most part, would only run with the throttle closed, and
          that was at a very fast idle…… but of course there was no
          prop on. It only ran for five minutes until it crapped in the
          barrel and died. Guess I’ll have to decide it I want to make
          it a runner or ornament. Wished I had measured crank bushings
          while it was apart 🙁
          How much would the 60 psi compression be contributing to
          the starting / running issue? I have no idea what’s normal for
          this engine.

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          #13453
          joecb
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            60 psi is probably not to bad for that small motor. As for the bearings, poor crankcase compression will contribute to hard starting and poor idling. If you can detect side to side motion when rocking the flywheel then your bearing are sloppy.

            Joe B

            #13459
            Buccaneer
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              Joe, thanks for the reply. If there’s any sideplay in the flywheel it’s
              minimal. I don’t think there’s room at add any seals with the
              crank bushings, but I’ll check it out if I tear it back apart.

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              #13460
              dave-bernard
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                IF YOU think it is crankcase leak or seals double up on the oil and try. if there is an improvement then you are on the right trail.

                #13473
                garry-in-michigan
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                  Many Antique outboard manufacturers specified 40 weight non-detergent oil in there motors. This gave them better crankcase sealing – It’s worth a try …

                  . . . . . . 😉

                  #13494
                  Buccaneer
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                    Well, I doubled the oil mix on the Neptune and fired it up in the
                    test barrel, and learned a few things!
                    #1- I’m an idiot (Yesterday when I thought the throttle valve was closed, it was wide open)
                    #2 – When running an outboard with a 5:1 fuel mixture, the wind always switched directions,
                    blowing Chinese like smog in your face!
                    #3 – The throttle keeps working itself open if your hand isn’t on the grip. (is there suppose
                    to be a spring on these twins to prevent that?
                    #4 – The exhaust noise is objectionable after 20 minutes, when there’s no exhaust tube attached.
                    All said it done, it ran for twenty minutes without dying. I wouldn’t can it "smooth", but
                    it did idle down fair. Without a prop on, I couldn’t really do any "high speed" tuning.
                    I may recheck the compression for kicks to see if it’s come up any from 60 psi, after
                    it’s total of 25 minutes running. I’ll put the exhaust tube and prop back on and try again
                    when it gets nicer out. Twenty mile an hour wind and in the thirties is not my idea
                    of fun. The Neptune did pump water nice, and cylinders ran cool to the touch, but
                    of course my test tank had 1/8" of ice on it this morning!

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                    #13497
                    dave-bernard
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                      great job.

                      #13498
                      RICHARD A. WHITE
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                        Awesome, looks like your on the right track…

                        http://www.richardsoutboardtools.com
                        classicomctools@gmail.com

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