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    Yellowstone

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    #181844

    Thanks! I am already to buy another. lol. But I still have some work on this one to do too, though. I am going to replace the coils, points and condensers and impeller as Mumbles suggested. Also ordered a missing clamp for $7 (right now using a screwdriver to twist the one bolt in.

    Cosmetically, I took all that ugly duck tape off the handle and used goo gone to get the residue off. There’s a big crack about 1/3 the way down one side so I taped it up with masking tape on the outside and applied aquaseal (I use on my waders) to the crack from the inside of the handle. Will see if that is a good semi-permanent fix once its hardened by tomorrow. I was also thinking about trying to remove some of the big dents from the tank. I am doing some research but any suggestions welcome. Then, this winter, if I get a bug up my behind, I may sand, prime, paint and apply new decals. I like it now too but there’s a lot of bare metal in spots.

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    dave-bernard

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    #181848

    See if you can get a better tank to replace a well dented tank is better .

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    2fast4me

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    #181853

    Dave, I thought those dents in the tank are required, all of my JW’s have them and the ‘Rudes did also.
    Jim

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    dave-bernard

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    #181856

    just saying IF the tank is dented with large dents.

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    Yellowstone

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    #181863

    The large dents are on the front. There are some lesser ones on the side. Honestly, the only thing I would be concerned about is if I repaint and want to put new decals on and it would cause issues in applying them. Or the decal that goes on the front. I’ve thought about trying a paintless dent repair kit. Anyway, worried about the mechanical updates first and would get to after duck season. I estimate I would use this motor 4 times or less for that when we need to get aways from a landing on a bigger lake. Most of the time its push pole or trolling motor. BTW, I realized today this is a 54 motor and the duck boat is a 54 Herters. Hadn’t planned that!

    I love the learning process. I took a break from cleaning the garage today. Took the top off the top of the motor to see if the coils were bad and was perplexed at how to get the flywheel off. I turned to YouTube and realized I am going to need a puller and strap wrench.

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    #181868

    If the motor is running that good, it probably doesn’t need new ignition parts. You can remove the cover on top of the flywheel and have a look without removing the flywheel. When they “serviced” the motor for $120, what did they do?

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    Yellowstone

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    #181878

    They reassembled the recoil correctly, installed a missing spring and new rope, put new spark plugs in, checked the gear lube and replaced it, and ran the motor in the tank for awhile. So I see what you mean now. Just ran out there and removed the thin plate, which I had failed to realize I could before it was stuck on there so good. One coil looks brand new. Other is shot.

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    Yellowstone

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    #181879

    So here are a few photos of the coils and the dents up front. I may just leave the latter if this is our trusty duck motor.

    flywheel

    cracked

    dents

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    Mumbles

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    #181884

    A dented tank is almost mandatory on an original JW or Lightwin. If you are doing a cosmetic cleanup, the dents can be hidden.

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    Yellowstone

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    #181889

    Nice! Beautiful work Mumbles! I had considered filling the dents in as an option too. I am also thinking of dragging the wife and kids to an auction tomorrow. I honestly have never been to one. They are just interested in how it works and the lunch that accompanies it. I left a VM for the auctioneer to see if you could check the compression on a motor before buying. My guess is “are you kidding me?” Anyway, here’s the motor part of the bill of sale. Its right down the road from us so planning to just stop by. I’m not looking to buy necessarily.

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    fleetwin

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    #181911

    The JW series of engines is what helped make OMC/Johnson great….That engine is simple, easy to work on, and most parts are available either new or used. I wouldn’t bother trying to refinish the engine, the original patina looks great and I don’t think you will get the dents out of the tank…
    For your next engine, I might recommend another one of OMC’s gems, the CD series of engines, which were 5.5hp models offered by Evinrude and Johnson…

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    fleetwin

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    #181912

    Yep, that coil is shot, am surprised it is sparking on that cylinder at all…Have a look at your service book, or ask here before tackling the ignition job…This job isn’t too hard, but there are some things you will need to know, and some tools you will have to add to your collection…The nice part of these tools is that they are used on most OMC universal magneto engines from the early 50s right up to the late 90s….

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    Yellowstone

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    #181915

    Thanks! Yeah, my wife said the same thing. I think it looks great original. And you are going to use it for duck hunting too so why make it showroom quality? She actually is excited too. Mumbles sent me the service manual so I am looking through that before attempting the coils. I’ve been looking at those CD models online. Thanks!

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    crosbyman

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    #182176

    peace of mind… free shipping

    https://www.ebay.ca/itm/2x-Ignition-Coil-For-Johnson-Evinrude-OMC-Replaces-584477-0584477-582995-0582995-/273865795030?hash=item3fc3ac65d6

    service book
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    Yellowstone

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    #182186

    Thanks! I ordered a new coil (should be here today) and a tune-up kit with the points, etc. I have been looking through the service manual Mumbles sent and other videos and instructional pages. My biggest challenge to date was the flywheel. I couldn’t get the strap wrench to hold snug or really get it around the wheel well enough to do so. So I improvised and used some strong, thing rope, wound it around and snug against the notch and tied it to the motor stand in a way that made the wheel non-mobile. Then I got the nut off. Tonight, I have to get some 1/4 inch bolts for the flywheel puller I bought as no bolts in the kit I bought match up. Actually had some but found they are to short. They don’t get enough of a hold for it to work. Video I watched said the flywheel release can be “explosive” if not done for awhile so trying not to flinch when I do it. Ha.

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