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    reiter
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      I have a KE4 that I am working on. I was wondering if anyone had any tips on changing the crank seals? I would also like to know what people recommend for a sealant for new gaskets

      Thanks

      #167113
      green-thumbs
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        US Member - 2 Years

        Upper crankshaft seal 7415
        Lower crankshaft seal was part of lower cover. There are several work arounds
        or you can leave it be.
        louis

        #167123
        green-thumbs
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          US Member - 2 Years

          Gaskets depend upon whether you have more time and patience or more money.
          The $5 Made in China gasket punches are a very good value for the money. Industrial
          grade gasket punches are EXPENSIVE unless you can find them at a garage sale.

          That said, there are 3 gaskets I would suggest you purchase, the gasket between
          the powerhead and the drive shaft/ exhaust housing, part # 27-24204
          manifold to cylinder gasket part# 27-21696
          manifold to driveshaft housing 27-23049
          They are not hard to make BUT obtaining suitable heat resistant material is difficult
          and may contain asbestos (as do old gaskets on engine)

          The gasket inside manifold is difficult to make (later 2 piece manifold) and requires
          a THICK heat resistant material

          2 other gaskets required to seal cooling water circuit
          27-21668 between water jackets
          27 – 24203 water tube gasket between driveshat housing and powerhead
          some use an “O” ring instead.

          So whats to make?
          Crankcase to cylinder jackets
          cylinder to water jacket
          spark plug flange to water jacket
          lower cover gasket
          water pump to gear case

          The lower drive shaft seal is made from a piece of leather or raw hidel
          on the KD and earlier models and can also be made with gasket punches plus a
          small bit of imagination.

          Tools required set of punches, scissors, cutting block, ruler, pencil, pen., drawing compass comes in useful at times.
          Louis

          #167126
          green-thumbs
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            US Member - 2 Years

            Permatex High Tack Gasket Sealant with brush in cap

            I have found that placing gasket on board and “painting” each side in turn give a tacky gasket without excess sealant…wear disposable H/F rubber gloves
            as it is about impossible to scrub off hands and fingers.
            Louis

            #167680
            johng
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              US Member - 2 Years

              Hi Louis, Here is a solution for the Early K Series up to MK-7 motors (6 -7 1/2 HP) concerning the Lower Crank Seal. I have used these Seals many times. The originals are rare. Find a local Auto Trans Repair Shop in your area that will take the time with you. You need the Shift Shaft Seal from a “Ford C-6 Automatic Transmission.” 1966′ -1976′ It is the correct fit. It is a chore to remove the crank cover metal seal cap, be careful with that. Just pull out the original seal and drive in the Ford C-6 seal. (Lip of seal pointed Down). I think same seal on the Early K series Single Cylinder motors.

              #167709
              green-thumbs
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                US Member - 2 Years

                Thank You for the helpful suggestion. I just got back from local NAPA with some seals (7415 upper crankcase seal and 4923 seals for 3 slit vane type water pump used on \a number of pre KE4 singles and twins. My experience with seals is it is best to order by
                part number.
                A brief scan of internet reveals a wide price range as well as some variety in what is
                pictured as the seal. Sounds like I am in for another trip to NAPA as will as some more
                research on the net.
                Thank again for a useful hint.
                Louis

                #167715
                jeff-register
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                  US Member - 2 Years

                  Louis,
                  You are the man!!
                  God Bless,
                  Jeff

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