Simplex Cables too short

[Buccaneer]

Dave, thanks for the link, I’ll check it out tonight.
I’ll give measuring for cable length a “go” tomorrow.
If in doubt, I’ll wait for your measurements.

Your Crestliner looks a little “spiffier” than mine.
Was “red” the only color they came in in 1957?
I know the Salmon / Pink on mine is not original,
and I see a little “blue” underneath in spots.
I haven’t dug deep enough to see if there’s any “red”
paint.

With MN boat regulations requiring the boat’s drain plug be already
removed when you arrive at a landing, and when you leave, I’m
dreading the thought of trying to get at the drain plug each time,
especially with the seat back in place.
I wonder if anyone has fabricated a drain plug with a reach rod
that extends up through the splash well?

Prepare to be boarded!

[dave-bernard]

use your TAPE Measure and make it run the route. disconnect your cables and use them to measure and add what you need..
measure twice cut once. not cut it off and it is still to short.

• This reply was modified 3 years, 9 months ago by dave-bernard.

[phil]

Here’s a video on how to measure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylNNEcf2vNY

Instructions on how to tighten screws to ensure the wire gets properly kinked:
http://www.seastarsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Evinrude-Johnson-Over-35hp-OB-Engine-Pre-1979-CA27247P-Rev.1-IS-7810.pdf

This should apply to both ends of both cables (tho I have no experience with the new (square corner) control boxes).

I seem to recall that at some point in time there were instructions to soften the wire core by heating (and letting cool, to anneal) so that it took the kink more readily….

http://www.omc-boats.org
http://www.aerocraft-boats.org

[outbdnut2]

I think I can measure my cables in a day or two – it rained here today and that took a lot of snow away so I can get a vehicle up to the garage it’s in now. I’ll see what I can do. I’m in Minnesota too, so I know about the drain plug thing.. You will likely have the battery or the gas tank in front of the drain plug. You may want to have a 2nd drain plug to show if you get asked and leave the plug in the boat. Of course, if the DNR is at the landing watching, you will have to pull it – then you want the gas tank on that side because it’s easier to pull out to get at the plug then pulling the battery with cables attached. You could also add an after-market plug to the bottom rear of the transom and pull it from the outside. I live on a lake, and the landing is close by, and semi-private so no DNR, so I don’t take my drainplug out…but then…I don’t take that boat to any other lakes, so I’m not spreading bad things from my lake to others. So far, all we’ve got here is a small patch of milfoil.

FYI: That Crestliner model is the same type Dad bought new in1958, so I’ve been runnin’ that model since I was 11 years old. He traded it in 1984, and I bought the one I have now in 2016. On Dad’s boat, we has a Mark 25 Merc, then a 1956 30 Johnson, then a 1960 40 Johnson and in 1965 put on a V4 – 60 Johnson. It’s rated for 60 HP, and was an awesome thrill to drive, but the weight of the V4 screwed up the handling some, so it was no longer a boat we could let just anybody drive. With the trim pin all the way up, and one person in the boat there was just enough speed for me to ski barefoot behind it. Best all around handling was with 40 HP, and I often pulled there teenage girls at the same time on skis behind it with the 40..
Below is a photo of Dad’s boat taken in 1968 with the V4 60HP on it. I’m in the water tending to my swamped hydroplane with a Champion 4LHD. My friend had come over in the modified Lone Star with the 25 Buccaneer.
I’ll try to get to those cable measurements tomorrow (Thursday).
Dave

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[Buccaneer]

dave-bernard wrote:

use your TAPE Measure and make it run the route. disconnect your cables and use them to measure and add what you need..
measure twice cut once. not cut it off and it is still to short.

• This reply was modified 3 years, 9 months ago by dave-bernard.

That’s kind of what my wife say’s her father always used to say when doing carpentry…….
“I cut it twice and it’s still too short”!

Prepare to be boarded!

[Buccaneer]

outbdnut2 wrote:

I think I can measure my cables in a day or two – it rained here today and that took a lot of snow away so I can get a vehicle up to the garage it’s in now. I’ll see what I can do. I’m in Minnesota too, so I know about the drain plug thing.. You will likely have the battery or the gas tank in front of the drain plug. You may want to have a 2nd drain plug to show if you get asked and leave the plug in the boat. Of course, if the DNR is at the landing watching, you will have to pull it – then you want the gas tank on that side because it’s easier to pull out to get at the plug then pulling the battery with cables attached. You could also add an after-market plug to the bottom rear of the transom and pull it from the outside. I live on a lake, and the landing is close by, and semi-private so no DNR, so I don’t take my drainplug out…but then…I don’t take that boat to any other lakes, so I’m not spreading bad things from my lake to others. So far, all we’ve got here is a small patch of milfoil.

FYI: That Crestliner model is the same type Dad bought new in1958, so I’ve been runnin’ that model since I was 11 years old. He traded it in 1984, and I bought the one I have now in 2016. On Dad’s boat, we has a Mark 25 Merc, then a 1956 30 Johnson, then a 1960 40 Johnson and in 1965 put on a V4 – 60 Johnson. It’s rated for 60 HP, and was an awesome thrill to drive, but the weight of the V4 screwed up the handling some, so it was no longer a boat we could let just anybody drive. With the trim pin all the way up, and one person in the boat there was just enough speed for me to ski barefoot behind it. Best all around handling was with 40 HP, and I often pulled there teenage girls at the same time on skis behind it with the 40..
Below is a photo of Dad’s boat taken in 1968 with the V4 60HP on it. I’m in the water tending to my swamped hydroplane with a Champion 4LHD. My friend had come over in the modified Lone Star with the 25 Buccaneer.
I’ll try to get to those cable measurements tomorrow (Thursday).
Dave

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Dave, I’ve seen that photo of your boat back in the “good old days” before,
and it’s great, and lots of good memories for you I’m sure.
I’ll measure tomorrow and we’ll compare notes when you get a chance to
measure yours, lol. Thanks.

Prepare to be boarded!

[Mumbles]

Hey Phil, my anti virus didn’t like that link you posted to Seastar.

Anyone else have this issue?

[outbdnut2]

To answer your question about color, in 1957, Crestliner painted some models green and white, but I’ve never seen our model in anything but gray and red, and the catalogs just show it n gray and red. In ’58 and ’59 it was known as the Voyager14 – same hull, and same color for 1958, but for 1959, the front deck has a raised section in the middle, the dashboard was aluminum and interior paint was speckled, so the 1959s had quite a different look, including several external paint schemes. You can find catalogs of the various years at http://www.retrocrestliner.com

The message board at retrocrestliner is not currently working except to read what’s already there, and the administrator is thinking of moving it to facebook.
Dave

[Buccaneer]

Phil, thanks for the video. It’s pretty much like Mumbles said earlier…… measure
the distance, and add four feet. It might be interesting making a loop with that
extra length under the splash well and behind that rear seat, and not get
tangled up with the gas tank and battery!

Prepare to be boarded!

[Buccaneer]

outbdnut2 wrote:

To answer your question about color, in 1957, Crestliner painted some models green and white, but I’ve never seen our model in anything but gray and red, and the catalogs just show it n gray and red. In ’58 and ’59 it was known as the Voyager14 – same hull, and same color for 1958, but for 1959, the front deck has a raised section in the middle, the dashboard was aluminum and interior paint was speckled, so the 1959s had quite a different look, including several external paint schemes. You can find catalogs of the various years at http://www.retrocrestliner.com

The message board at retrocrestliner is not currently working except to read what’s already there, and the administrator is thinking of moving it to facebook.
Dave

I got various photos from brochures off the Crestliner site last Fall, and the Red and Gray
was all I noticed too. My wife wants me to paint it, but I don’t think it’s going to
happen any time soon, lol.

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