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    T….in Wisconsin
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      I’m running into some resistance trying to remove the prop in picture. With prop nut removed I’m not able to slide the prop off the shaft. I’ve tried gently tapping on the prop with a rubber hammer but it still won’t move.  Please advise as to what the problem might be.  Does anyone have or know where to find an exploded view of the lower unit?

      #277381
      The Boat House
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        Its just stuck.
        They can be a real pain to get off sometimes.
        Many of the early Johnson screws, nuts and
        bolts are of a thread that is no longer used so
        be careful with and keep track of them.
        Tubs
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        #277394
        T….in Wisconsin
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          Hi Tubbs,

          Nice picture of the assembly.

          It appears it may be difficult getting penetrating oil or lube to the prop shaft in a effort to loosen the prop.

          Is it a good idea to disassemble the lower unit to check the internals.

          Peering in through the grease filler port I can’t see any evidence of lube.

          Might I need to disassemble the lower unit and remove the prop shaft to get the prop off.

          Roger that on keeping track of all the nuts, bolts and quite frankly everything.

           

           

           

           

           

          #277401
          fifty20ne
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            I use a small two jaw OTC or Craftsman brand puller to

            remove stubborn props!

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            #277413
            Mumbles
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              In no particular order, some of the parts making up the lower assembly.

              Johnson-A-Gearcase

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              #277421
              The Boat House
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                The Prop is stuck from just before the shear pin hole back.
                I’d like to see what condition the L U is in inside. Not seeing
                anything in there could be a bad sign. There are no seals so
                some grease goes out the shafts. This lubes the bushings but
                water enters replacing the grease. If water was left in there
                to sit for decades you can have a prop gear that is fine ¾
                of the way around and the teeth rusted off to some degree
                on the rest of it. Maybe the last person to run it used gear
                oil and it has all run out.
                Using it without inspecting it first? Well if it’s junk you can’t
                hurt it. Try moving the prop shaft up and down & side to side
                to check the condition of the bushing. It is what it is but this
                can give you some indication of what you might find inside.
                Turn the prop back and forth to check the gear lash. Do this
                every ¼ turn of the prop. Expect some slop but if it isn’t
                excessive filling the L U with grease and using the motor may
                free the prop up some. If the prop nut is tight up to the prop
                I’d take out the cotter pin and back the nut off a couple holes.
                You want to use lubriplate 105 or John Deere corn head
                Grease in the gear case.
                Looking at your L U picture, the steel driveshaft tube and
                not having a cavitation plate indicate its early cast tank
                Johnson. If you don’t want to disclose your serial number
                would you say if it is in the hundreds or what thousand’s?
                Tubs
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                #277446
                stanley
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                  Remove the two screws on the gearcase head and you can pull the prop,prop shaft and bevel gear out of the case as one unit.You can then more easily remove the prop.The drawing shows the setup in the gearcase.

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                  #277458
                  sydinnj
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                    a good possibility is to get some oil of wintergreen from the drugstore and use it as penetrating oil, give it time to work in, ive had great results with it.

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                    #277459
                    T….in Wisconsin
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                      I positioned the lower unit to horizontal position and sprayed kroil on the prop shaft and after letting it kreep in the prop easily slid off.

                      Not much corrosion inside and minimal backlash between the gears.

                      There is NO cotter pin hole in the prop shaft and brass nut holding the prop in place.

                      You’re right a thorough inspection and cleaning is needed.

                      I have the Lubriplate

                      Serial # 4215

                       

                       

                       

                       

                      #277474
                      The Boat House
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                        Serial numbers from 3931 to 7500 are 1923.
                        The cast tank Johnson’s have a strong interest
                        in the hobby. Your LU is in better condition than
                        most. An indication your motor has been well
                        cared for. If you want to disassemble it any farther
                        you should remove the pump first. Don’t want to
                        beat this fastener thing to death but the rope
                        starter screws are the ones most likely to have
                        been chewed up and are really hard to come by.
                        They are way to small to be used with a puller.
                        Here is a link on how to remove the flywheel and
                        one with some history on the early Johnson’s you
                        might find interesting.
                        Tubs
                        https://youtu.be/RWgE9XiIBnk
                        https://www.yankeeaomci.org/johnsonat85.htm
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