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    Jean-François TRAINI

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    #210453

    Hi,

    This one followed me home yesterday…

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    I guess it’s a Super Elto Speedster, but the ID plate is in very bad condition showing only 6 (?) 0050. Can anyone tell me what kind of Speedster and what year?

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    Exhaust also seems unusual and a little bit… loud?

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    Any help appreciated! Best regards JFT

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    Jean-François TRAINI

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    #210479

    Thanks Tubs. I read here in another post that they were rated for 8, 12 or 14 hp…
    What do you think about mine?

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    eltoquad

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    #210483

    I have reproduced serial numbers tags for your motor if you ever decide to restore it.

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    Here are some links you might find useful. (very large).




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    wbeaton

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    Your motor is considered a 1928 according to the serial guides, but in reality it was built in 1927. Serial number 60050 may be the earliest example known. A friend has 60057 and much of it matches your motor. If you choose to replace the serial plate with a reproduction please keep the original safely stored with the motor to prove its provenance.

    The 1927 (hard tank) Speedster has some very unique features that separate it from later 1928 (soft tank) Speedsters. Most obvious are the cast aluminium fuel tank and the non-water cooled exhaust manifolds. The exhaust manifolds were prone to cracking from the exhaust heat. This is likely why your motor sports cottage racer manifolds. Later 1928-29 exhaust manifolds were a factory replacement and would not be incorrect for this motor if you choose to restore the exhaust.

    It appears you have a Light Twin (Ruddertwin) timer so you may also have the corresponding flywheel. It would be worth correcting those parts as it would affect performance or possibly it’s ability to run. It you post a photo of the underside of your flywheel I can tell you if you have a Light Twin or Speedster flywheel.

    You have found one very old and special Speedster. Congratulations. I hope you enjoy it for many years.

    Wayne
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    wbeaton

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    #210608

    The earliest Speedsters may not have a serial number on the block. The crankcase on the one posted is the early style so I’m sure it’s truly 60050.

    Wayne
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    Jean-François TRAINI

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    #210641

    I have reproduced serial numbers tags for your motor if you ever decide to restore it.

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    I’m interested for sure. The two questions are “How much for the plate?” and “Do you ship to France?”

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    wbeaton

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    #210645

    I couldn’t agree more, Tubs. This is an excellent opportunity for all of us. The Speedster should have a timer specific to it. Part of what makes a Speedster faster is the increase in timing advance. Sam Vance wrote a great article that was published in the January 1976 issue of the Antique Outboarder that points out the differences in the “1927” Speedsters and those that followed it.

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    eltoquad

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    #210677

    The plates are $37.50 post pd to US addresses. I’d have to look into what it’d cost to ship to France if you’re interested in plate at that price plus additional postage.

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