Home Forum Ask A Member Top shaft seal leaking of 1967 18hp Evinrude

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    Evinrude 25
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      I was told by the previous owner that is 1967. But I could not sure since the name tag is hard to read. Could you identify it by these pictures. The model number 18602C

      • This reply was modified 1 year, 11 months ago by Evinrude 25.
      #268144
      Evinrude 25
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        There was some oil on the magplate and point. The magplate shows on the picture after I cleaned it up so it looks so clean.

        #268147
        Evinrude 25
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          I clean this area a bit and take picture for you to view. It is nicely machined of this recess area. It does not look like a gouge.

          #268162
          Mumbles
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            Now I have to go and take a peek at some 18’s I have in pieces. For the life of me, I don’t ever recall seeing that passage coming up past the top seal. But then again, I don’t seem to recall lots of things these days.

            • This reply was modified 1 year, 11 months ago by Mumbles.
            #268172
            billw
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              No, Don, it was me that was looking at the diagram wrong. You’re right. There is no top o-ring! Sorry for any confusion that I added to this thread.

              Long live American manufacturing!

              #268173
              Evinrude 25
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                There is no O-ring on 1966. So how does it seal between the bearing and casting? What is this passage for?

                #268176
                fleetwin
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                  No, Don, it was me that was looking at the diagram wrong. You’re right. There is no top o-ring! Sorry for any confusion that I added to this thread.

                  This is a confusing topic indeed!  For the life of me, I can’t figure out why the engineers thought this system would be a good idea.  The ideal system would have been to incorporate both the oring and this recirc system as a “back up”..  This system creates alot of confusion, along with many upper seals being replaced that are not really damaged.  It is easy to understand how an oring would be “added” during a rebuild, assuming that the lack of an oring was a manufacturing error.  But, adding the oring interferes with the recirc system and can cause excess oil build up on the mag plate.

                  Ok, well you mention there was some oil on the mag plate, but how much?  There will always be a little bit, can’t avoid it.   I can’t see what you saw, so it is hard for me to advise.  You do want to make sure that the recirc hole/passage is clear though into the intake system, otherwise the system won’t work at all.  I would not attempt to remove that seal without the proper OMC seal puller though.  I guess if it were mine, I would clean up/relube/service the mag plate reinstall, then use the engine.  Pull the flywheel again after putting some hours on it to check for excess oil build up on the mag plate.

                  #268177
                  fleetwin
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                    US Member - 2 Years

                    There is no O-ring on 1966. So how does it seal between the bearing and casting? What is this passage for?

                    You are right, no oring between the bearing case and casting, kind of silly.  So, some oil will surely be forced out between the bearing and case into the upper seal area.  The little relief in the casting is where there is a small relief port that is piped down into the front of reeds/intake.  So, there will be low pressure/vacuum applied to that little hole/port (the hole is not visible with the crankcase assembled).   The theory is that any oil that might be forced between the casing/casting or through a bad upper seal will be drawn back down into the intake manifold before it can get all over the mag plate.

                    A better idea would have been to use the oring in conjunction with this “recirc system”.    But again, do not add an oring to one of these engines, it blocks the recirc port and can create more of an oil leak/mess.    Just wish they had moved the groove in the bearing down just a bit, so the oring could have been used without blocking the recirc port.

                    Would love to be able to talk to the engineers that came up with stuff like this to understand their thought process, maybe I am missing something.

                    #268183
                    crosbyman
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                      Canada Member - 2 Years

                      isn’t all this similar to the oil slinger process  whereby any excess oil leaking out the top  is sucked back in  ?

                      Joining AOMCI has priviledges 🙂

                      #268262
                      RICHARD A. WHITE
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                        There is a seal puller for these motors…. If interested message me as I make them… I have 14 here now…. which means I gotta buy more material to make more, weeee…lol

                         

                        http://www.richardsoutboardtools.com
                        classicomctools@gmail.com

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