Vintage Johnson Outboard A4215 South Bend Indiana

[T….in Wisconsin]

Hello Stanley,

Thanks to you and all who have replied, I appreciate this information.

 

 

[T….in Wisconsin]

I’m finally getting back to investigating more on this motor. As suggested I’ve attached a few more pictures.

It’s in good condition for a 100 year old motor.  Nothing is seized, motor turns over freely along with all the mechanisms and shut offs.

Advice in delving into this motor is welcome. Same as others I would thing, spark, compression, fuel.

I’ll Kroil all threaded connection before trying to loosen or remove and not force anything as I’m sure replacement part are difficult or nowhere to be found.

 

 

[Tubs]

You want to be careful with the fasteners.
Many are of a thread no longer available.
Examples would be the 3 screws that hold on
the rope sheave as well as the oval head screw
in the bottom of the carburetor and the drain
screw in the water pump. There are others.
You wont be able to use a puller to remove
the flywheel. This link below is to a method
you should use to prevent causing any damage.
Tubs.

https://youtu.be/RWgE9XiIBnk

A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

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[T….in Wisconsin]

Thanks for replying, I appreciate the link.

I hit the 3 rope sheave screws with Kroil earlier today and again tomorrow. These may be a challenge right out of the gate. Heating these to any extent I would think to be a gamble.  Plugs are Champion D6J’s and also look to have a strangle hold on the cylinder, patience and time, time and patience.

Tubs, your name was mentioned by Dan in TN ( Dan I hope you don’t mind dropping your name) as a go to source for coils information and or possible substitutes. I’m looking for a coil# 275019 for a 41 1.1hp Elto 4266, pic attached. I’ve sent an inquiry out to Twin City Outboard and waiting to hear back.

Much obliged.

 

[Tubs]

Are you sure that coil is bad? I have had a bunch
of motors with that magneto, actually working
on a 38 Pal right now, and never had a bad coil
but – I have had a lot of them that wouldn’t put
out a spark because the points needed cleaning.
More than just the contacts. They need to be
disassembled.
Tubs.

A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

[Tubs]

I did some checking and if you should actually
need a coil one of these should work. They are
available with a single or twin sparkplug lead.
You can use the coil with 2 leads by grounding
the one you don’t use to the magneto plate.
Search eBay for “Coil P/N MFR-61689” for the
2 lead coil & “Coils P/N: 9786E128” for the
single lead coil.
Tubs.

A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

[T….in Wisconsin]

 

Taking a closer look at the points.

Nice herd of motors.

 

Thanks Tubs

 

[T….in Wisconsin]

Great

Found them!

 

 

[T….in Wisconsin]

I’ve removed the rope start cover & flywheel without to much difficulty, link you provided was very helpful.

Tool shown in the video worked very well.

Today I’ll check continuity of the plug wires and clean the points.

Coil  looks to be in good condition from the outside. Using a multimeter, what is a good resistance value across the coils.

Carburetor looks to be common across other vintage motors. I’m thinking a diagram should not be too hard to find.

I appreciate the advice & feedback.

Wisco Tim

 

 

[Tubs]

I wont be of any value to you as far as a good resistance value.
My method is to check for spark. If none I just check to see if
the secondary is open. If I get any resistance I move on.
Just an explanation, not a recommendation.
There is a gap setting for the points but it is difficult to do
as the hole isn’t in a convenient location.
You should find a mark on the mag plate and the flywheel.
This is where the points should be set to open.
Cant tell how your spark plug wire connection is made to the coil.
They don’t look to be soldered on.
I insert a brass nail in the end of the end of the wire. My thinking
is this should make better contact than just some extra wire sticking out.
Four information the original wires have been replaced on your motor.
Originally the connection was sealed in tar.
In the tar were two very fine springs making the connection from the
wire to the coil.
Tubs

A "Boathouse Repair" is one that done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.

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