Vintage Outboard Oil ?

[Buccaneer]

When did specific outboard oil replace automotive motor oil?
What vintage is the Troll-Oil ? 50’s, 60’s?
How many Trolls does it take to make a quart of oil?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/antique-Troll-O … Swr7ZW61vo

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[Goman]

How many Trolls does it take to make a quart of oil?

Only Big Billy Goat Gruff can answer that question.

[1946zephyr]

Oh cool. Troll juice. 😀 :-D. Looks like bloody oil

[Buccaneer]

I thought some members with long whiskers could answer…….
"When did specific 2 Cycle outboard oil replace automotive motor oil?"
"Vintage of the Troll Oil"?
I shaved this morning so I forgot everything I ever knew!

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[dan-in-tn]

I got the whiskers, just not sure about the memory! Tried to do a little reaserch and could find anything as to first year OMC made their oil? I think it was about 1965, but don’t hold me to it. Mercury could have been first. Of course the beginning was slow because it cost more, a lot more. The outboard oil up till then was just non detergent 30 wt. I can remember my dad insisting a small green (6 oz. coke bottle Quaker State) full to the gallon on our 1960 Evinrude 10 hp. Of course I’m sure people used everything back then. Auto oil, used oil, etc. I remember a particular oil in the south that got a bad reputation for engine destruction. GRC. It was in a small can for one gallon of gas. Of course you don’t know today if the consumer was mixing correctly or what, but it got blamed for everything.
The invention of manufacturer oil at least have a minimum standard. Mercury did have a problem with their oil. It was good oil (Formula 50D as I remember). They had a dilution problem. It was hard to get it mixed in with the fuel. It was thick and would fall out of dilution as I understand. They later came out with a pre diluted product and end of problem. Those first oils gave the industry detergent, dispersants, and zinc packages that the oils needed to guarantee the engine would break in properly and run cleaner with good lubrication properties. Other oils did the same things as long as they were rated TCW? Later came TCWII & TCWIII which were just later refinements to the formulas. Today’s oils are far superior to the originals, but no substitute for proper ratios for our old motors. Hope I got most of that right. Just the way I remember it.

Dan in TN

[Buccaneer]

Thanks Dan for the blast from the past.
The Troll Oil bottom to me has a "late 50’s"
to "early 60’s" look, but who knows!
I do remember in the mid to late 70’s motor oil
still coming in the round, cardboard type containers..
presume glass and tin predated those!

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[Mumbles]

I’m pretty sure two-stroke oil designated for outboards became common in the early sixties. Possibly around ’64 when everyone started using 50:1 mix. I can remember my dad always having it around for his new ’63 Johnson CD.

Here’s some OMC, Esso and Shell oil.It’s BIA rated TC-W and OMC got out of the Pioneer chainsaw business around ’77 so it’s probably from the mid seventies. The paper Shell container is a real imperial quart (remember those?) with metric printing on it so it’s probably from the early seventies. Our current Prime Ministers father started switching us over to the metric system in 1970.

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[Buccaneer]

Mumbles, looks like you have a nice "petrolina" (sp?) collection going there!

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[Buccaneer]

I could see where collecting Outboard Oil cans would be fun when
I’m no longer able to lift an outboard!
I put together a collage of different vintage outboard oils from
the Net. I’m sure there’s many more. Fun to see them.
Probably shot some of them full of holes when I was a kid
visiting the city dump!

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[Mumbles]

quote Buccaneer:

Mumbles, looks like you have a nice “petrolina” (sp?) collection going there!

Now I’m working on the wheel bearing grease! 😀

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