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    In reply to: Early Johnson Mystery

    PM T2
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      FWIW, there is an industrial tool supplier in Michigan that carries hundreds of threading tools that can produce about any thread you can think of, including these oddball #14-24 TPI drain plugs. Its the same place as I bought the 10-30 tap and die for making the Johnson rope sheave plate screws that get the slots mucked up (or lost by somebody else, but not you) so often. As soon as I can find the last receipt from them, I’ll tell you the name of the company.

      PM T2

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      #330369

      In reply to: Early Johnson Mystery

      JOSEPH BRINCAT
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        Like Tubs said .. if it’s #14-24 don’t loose it.  When the subject of the old obsolete ASME/ American Standard thread sizes come up , I feel compelled to post the old size chart in the public interest.  Please note the clone size proximity of several number sizes to our now common 1/4 ”

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          Started on the subject motor today.
          I bought this one several years ago at an annual flea market.
          At some point I had the carb off and robbed the long float pin
          and gas line for another project…… a Johnson K-80 perhaps.
          I since purchased a NOS float pin.
          The motor is missing the spark plug cover, but I think it’s complete
          otherwise.
          The gas tank is in fair shape, with a decent “antique” looking decal,
          so this motor will get a good cleaning, and no paint….. I hope!

          It had been sitting in “cold” storage, and I could barely turn
          the engine over. Last evening I gave it a squirt a pee oil in each
          cylinder, and let it sit all day in the heated part of the garage.
          Happy to say, it turns over nice now, and the compression was
          even, but mostly likely “falsely” high, due to the pee oil in the
          cylinders yesterday…… 95 psi on each cylinder.
          I’m guessing the grease in the gear case was the “stiff” issue yesterday.

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          The flywheel rope pulley holes turned out to be 14-24 threads.
          Somewhere, I have some I made up for the puller.
          I found three different length bolts that worked, but
          I have a feeling they were metric threads, as the bolts heads
          required metric wrenches. Perhaps it would be easier to buy some
          metric bolts all the same size, but I need to research this more first!

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          I did a quick check of the coils with the ohm meter, and one
          coil’s secondary is reading around “zero” ohms, but not “open”. Strange?
          The other coil was between 4-5 k ohms. I cleaned the probe areas,
          but got the same results.

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          #246912

          In reply to: Johnson model A-25

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            Guessing the nut is a 7/16″ x 20 tpi, and the three machine screws
            the oddball 12-24 or 14-24, which are a little hard to find.
            Do some searches on site for those oddball thread sizes to see
            which one for sure. Guessing you already tried 1/4″ x 20?

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              #226580

              In reply to: Screws too small

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                I ran into some 14-24 machine screws on the Johnson A-45 yesterday.
                The last two to clean up that hold the back of the gas tank on.
                One was brass, the other steel. Couldn’t find two that matched,
                so I guess they’ll be painted.
                There’s some on Ebay, but they’re the stove bolt type head.

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                #203344

                In reply to: Stuck Flywheels

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                  My K-50 Johnson had 14-24 tpi treads on the flywheel.
                  See this thread….

                  https://aomci.org/forums/search/14-24/

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                    RICHARD A. WHITE
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                      #74525
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                        Squier, by the looks of all the caked on dirt, I assumed the K-50
                        used a lot of oil. 😆
                        I may get my little electric power washer out tomorrow and see
                        if I can blow some of the grime off.

                        I finished up the magneto today. Not sure why one plug wire
                        points forward, and the other aft, but that’s the only way the
                        wire caps screw on. Hopefully I’ll understand when I put it all
                        back together!
                        It had rubber boots on the old plug wires. I presume it originally
                        had the "fork" type terminal ends??

                        Started cleaning up the flywheel, etc.

                        Made some 14-24 puller bolts today for the old Johnsons. I hate
                        using an irreplaceable rope plate for a puller, so I got the grade 8
                        bolts, cuts the heads off, and threaded them for the flywheel.
                        Hopefully I put them away where I find them for the next job!


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